hmmm… what?
You know, I thought she was gone. She agreed to leave me alone and sent me a long email confessing and apologizing for everything and I actually believed her. How could I have been so stupid? Of course she’s not gone. She’s much too childish and proud to let anything go. So here we have a Stalker Girl update complete with all the emails you’ve missed. I know this is going to be long, I hope that it will entertain you, my reader, enough to stick with it.
And because I know you’re out there, Stalker Girl, let me just say that this is my website, I pay for the hosting, I pay for the domain, I maintain the site, I post to it – I can say on here whatever the heck I want and you can’t do a thing about it. Every email you continue to send me is going to get posted on here. Also, because of your attitude that you will only leave me alone if I delete my posts about you (which was not part of the original agreement and passwording them should have been enough to satisfy you), well, let’s just say that you’ve earned yourself your own category and all the posts have been unpassworded. They will stay that way, too. Because, you know what? I don’t delete posts. It doesn’t happen. I especially don’t delete posts with comments (and I’ve gotten a lot of comments regarding you, as you can see). Finally, let me say that Google loves me, as soon as I post a post, it’s being crawled, I don’t have to do a thing. So if I were you, I’d just give it up, go home and grow up, and leave us all alone.
Now, let’s start from the beginning of what I thought was the end, shall we?
We last left off with me finally telling her off when she stole one of my designs and posted it for free download. I told her she owed me $45 for each download and that her total was $15,525. She claimed that someone else stole it and was impersonating her. Whatever. I told her to leave me alone and to transfer her domain away from my account.
About that time, a new personality of hers started visiting her site. I’ve since deleted all comments by her but on an unrelated post she commented:
Well, bout the stalker girl, ARE you really serious bout the cash?
I had her shaking in her boots. And, yes, I am serious. I could use that $15,525. I never responded to that but started blocking this personality who would come back with a new IP address from some other part of the US each time. I even trapped her into mistakes on GoogleTalk (which I’ve since uninstalled). I asked her where she was from and she said “Washington” – well, which one? “DC” Um, okay. What time is it there? She couldn’t answer me and signed off real quick. Well duh, that’s someone who really lives in Washington DC.
The stupid thing about all of it was that she was even posting with the domain name lemonale.com and was very very close to personating me. On this site she supposedly had a husband named Steve and called him Steph or something. She supposedly had two kids and called them both E and Baby E. She named categories just like mine. She set up her about page just like mine. She even at one point posted on the site something like, “OMG Valerie’s stalker is now stalking me too!!” Riiiiight. There was more, too, but you get the idea. She has since changed that domain to her “real” personality.
Now, while all that’s going on, she’s emailing me as herself. Let’s have some fun, shall we? In response to my last email to her (see this post, last email from me, obviously):
it was a faker ok? well, i found out who it was. it claimed to be me ok? if you don’t believe me, then fine. email the user. I emailed that person. no reply yet. bout the domain… how do i transfer it?
That was on August 25 at 12.24am, my time. 25 minutes later:
ps her email is limchienyee@aim.com…. guess what. she also claimed to be me in several sites (e.g OSWD) well, i never registered in OSWD as I could design my own. well, I did not even steal your design. A person, Precious Lovers as she called herself told me of your post. She said you say that I have the following sites :
chienyee.net – u should know
icy.hollowsite.com – NOT MINE
shadow.mezza-9.net – NOT mine
geocities.com/chienyee2002 – mine
freewebs.com/chienyee – NOT mine
chienyee.soul-petal.net – not mine
chienyee.mindintentionshosting.com – WAS mine
chienyee.1800-webhosting.com – WAS mine
PS the oswd design is not there anymore. i checked and it wasn’t there.I will not pay for something I did not do. I am telling the truth. Anyways, IF you were me, I would personally think carefully before accusing someone. And sorry but I am NOT a stalker girl. Precious Lovers said this to me:
Hey miss Stalker Girl, be more pleasant in life and GET A GRIP! stealing people’s stuff is BAD and I mean it. If I really knew where you lived, I’d march there and bill your parents!!!
These are probably your sites:
chienyee.net
icy.hollowsite.com
shadow.mezza-9.net
geocities.com/chienyee2002
freewebs.com/chienyee
chienyee.soul-petal.net
chienyee.mindintentionshosting.com
chienyee.1800-webhosting.com
Get a grip. So many emails to stalk ONE girl? freak of Nature.
Girl #1 – hhammond@gmail.com
Girl #2 – chienyee@gmail.com / chienyee2002@yahoo.com
Girl #3 – sillyshadows69@gmail.com
Girl #4 – ms.ivy.tan@gmail.com
Girl #5 – ms.rainbow.skies@gmail.com / msrainbowskies@yahoo.com
Girl #6 – icy.hearts@gmail.com
Girl #7 – icy_chien_yee@msn.com / icy_chien_yee@gmail.com
Girl #8 – ivy.tan@gmail.com
Girl #9 – lim.wan.shen@gmail.com
Girl #10 – sky.echoes@gmail.comDon’t tell me you still think I lie? well, if you allowed me in your MSN for ONE day to clear this issue, maybe I can tell you the exact truth about what really happened to the emails are mine. I admit that I own these :
chienyee@gmail.com, chienyee2002@yahoo.com and lim.wan.shen@gmail.com is my brother’s. I AM SERIOUS!i do hope this issue clears NOW!
Of course the thing about someone emailing her about my post was a lie because she was “Precious Lovers.” Then, 19 minutes after that:
Well, I am also sick of you saying that I actually had those sites and emails. well, after this clears, I NEVER want to talk to you again.
Guilty conscience much? Six hours later:
I said, how do I transfer my site? cos after this, i can have it all to myself!
Do you see where doing nothing gets me? She still emails me when I don’t reply.
I continued to ignore her and on September 8:
how do I transfer my domain? its been so long ok? I know you don’t want have anything to do with me but my domain is still under you!
I mean, seriously, how hard is it to transfer a domain name? You go to the domain company you want and click transfer and follow the instructions. Duh.
Now, here’s where we get rolling again. September 9 she emails me this, subject “Can’t you stop?”:
I thought you were sick of me? Why did you post in my guestbook huh? Can’t you just get lost. Leave me alone. Btw, how do I transfer my site?
So now here she is making stuff up that I’m posting in her site that I hadn’t even visited. Of course, I visited her site then to see what she was talking about but there was nothing there. My reply:
I did not post in your guestbook. Get over yourself and stop lying.
I haven’t even been home all day today.You transfer your domain with a registrar like GoDaddy or Enom or
something. Just put the transfer through. It’s not hard. Pay them
tell them what domain you want and they handle all the hard stuff.
It’s not even locked, it won’t be refused.Now stop lying, I have gotten lost. YOU are the one who keeps
emailing ME and getting other people to ask me questions. Grow up.
By “other people” I was referring to “precious lovers” who was asking me all sorts of things about it and finally said she was trying to be a “go between” to help us solve our problems. I told her I didn’t need any help, I just wanted SG to get lost, and by the way, PL, I know you are SG so get lost, too.
Her reply. September 10:
hey. fot pete’s sake. i got this entry in my guestbook
Get a grip. you are a wh*re.
I am not lying. what’s your problem. calling me a wh*re?
I had forwarded the first email to Christine as we’d been talking about all of this and she said “WTF????????????????? hell no” do not give her the domain, since I originally paid for it. And that is when she showed me the domain name lemonale.com. She’d found it in her referrer logs since SG had linked her site, too.
On advice from other people including psychatrists and police, I changed the nameservers on the domain chienyee.net and locked it in order to not give it to Stalker Girl. Christine and I also came up for something silly for the whois since I didn’t want it pointing back to me. So on September 11, I got this email from Stalker Girl:
what did you do to my domain? its now changed and all? Can you still let me have it at least for until it expires? Its mean that you didn’t ionform me of it.
About an hour later I got this email with subject “You think you’re so smart eh?”
I used a proxy to see my site. It works fine. Think you’re all that smart that I can’t have my site anymore? well, you’re wrong. I can still use it from the root server. Well, I think you put your NS so I can’t see it. Well, I can! You just can’t let me keep it for a while longer eh? I am trying to get a free domain so soon I can leave you forever. Can I by any chance still transfer it? hmm? well, even if you’re sick of me, I can still try to get my domain back from you.
btw, the one who signed my guestbook is [my email address] so I suspected you. maybe someone else used yuor email. I don’t know, don’t care because I deleted it.
this is just sickening.
Registrant:
Sybil Sighco
123 Looney Lane
Igloo, Alaska 12345
United StatesRegistered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: CHIENYEE.NET
Created on: 29-Mar-05
Expires on: 29-Mar-06
Last Updated on: 10-Sep-05Administrative Contact:
Sighco, Sybil Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
123 Looney Lane
Igloo, Alaska 12345
United States
0000000000 Fax –
Technical Contact:
Sighco, Sybil Whois Privacy and Spam Prevention by Whois Source
123 Looney Lane
Igloo, Alaska 12345
United States
0000000000 Fax –Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HOLIFIELDWEB.NET
NS2.HOLIFIELDWEB.NETIf you could, just update the NS to ns1.o-wh.com and ns2.o-wh.com. I just don’t understand you. You are getting me very frustrated you know that. AT LEAST let me keep this site till it expires.
Last but not least, PLEASE respond or email me anything regarding chienyee.net. I have hostees there so let them not suffer because of our quarrel
Stupid. The only reason she would have been able to see it was because it hadn’t propagated to my server yet. As for the “quarrel” – this is no quarrel, this was internet crime: stalking. An hour later she sent me the same email again.
Ten minutes after the second copy of the email:
Please let me have my site back. I’m sorry ok? I didn’t mean to make you angry with me but I have reasons. I really apologise so please stop not making me have my site. I beg you! I’ll stop emailing you, I promise. Just let me keep my site. It has become a part of me and my daily life. I beg of you.
My reply, the next day:
Depends on what your reasons are.
You’ve not just angered me, you won’t leave me alone. You are stalking me. You keep coming up with ways to get around blocks to my sites and creating new personalities to annoy me with. All I want is for you to just go away. Stop being obsessed with me. Stop trying to become me. Stop lying.
All I ever tried to do was be nice to you, and this is how I am repaid?
I am bombarded with other online personalities asking for free stuff and getting mad when I don’t give it.
I am sent nasty emails and accused of calling you a whore when you should know that I NEVER post that val email address online so that right there should tell you I didn’t sign your guestbook. And since you didn’t bother to show me any real proof that anyone signed your book as me, I believe that you are also lying about that, making it all up. In fact, the val email address was a spam-free email address until you came along and started using it to sign up for Xara or whatever else. Now thanks to YOU I get spam there. I’m probably going to have to stop using that address thanks to you.
You steal my designs and offer them for free download when I would have charged for it and then you turn around and lie and say that it wasn’t you that YOU have people who are using your name to copy ME. That doesn’t even make any sense. Especially when I do searches and find forum posts and whatever else of other people complaining that you’ve stolen their stuff, too.
And the list goes on and on.
Did you know that stalking online is a cyber crime? Did you also know that I plan to talk to my cousin the policewoman? I was going to call her today but I just got word that our step-grandmother died this morning, so I will wait. But trust me, I will be talking to her. And she has friends in high places. I will track you down and prosecute you, if need be. Just leave me alone.
I will think about the domain. Until then, you are authorized to send me one email only, a reply to this one, I want to know what your alleged reasons are for making me angry, as you put it. You said, “I didn’t mean to make you angry with me but I have reasons.” So what are they? Are you psychotic? All my friends think you are.
And, as I mentioned, that was the day V died. So I did talk to my cousin the cop the very next day at the visitation and she had me bring in copies of all the emails and comments and everything (screen shots of proof of personalities) the next day at the funeral and we talked about it afterward at the meal. She’s convinced Stalker Girl is unhinged and she’s actually convinced that she’s some 40 year old pervert of the male persuasion, also.
Her reply:
The reasons are that:
1) I had a lot of pressure recently in school.
2) My parents have been arguing because of some reason they wish not to tell me
3) I just couldn’t take the anoyance my brother did to me. I didn’t tell my parents as they are arguing and would say “Its your child, you handle it” to each other.
I am not obsessed with you. I just wanted to be friends. You are the only person that has been nice to me. I admit it. I am icy.hearts@gmail.com. Silly Shadow is my classmates email and they use my PC to access the internet. Sky.Echoes is my cousin who also used my PC. About the guestbook thing. I deleted it. I just didn’t want those words, ok? It was posted at midnight of my country so I don’t know about it till morning came and that’s why I emailed you. By the way. About the one stealing stuff. I did not do it. I can design my own stuff so why should I steal it? Ms.Rainbow.Skies is the one who gave it to me. I have no idea who she really was but I helped her once so she helped me back.About the IPs I used. They alwaya vary whenever I go online. The IPs here are always varying because I use a broadband internet access.
I’m sorry to hear about your step-grandmother. I also have the sad feeling since I lost my grandmother at seven years old.
I am glad you at least responded to this email. I’d understand that you won’t want to talk to me ever again so I don’t mind.
I hate to be a stalker or being stalked. I didn’t know this was even stalking. I really had no idea. I’m really sorry about it.
I didn’t sign you up for Xara or anything of the sort. Believe me. I don’t even use their software. I would never use your email for malicious deeds. I swear.
Well, I think that’s all I wanted to say. Good bye.
Lies, lies, all lies!
And then, and then, and then, I almost forgot about this! That same day she called me, on the phone!! Here’s what I posted in my blog that night:
Oh and the icing on the cake today. I can’t believe I almost forgot to mention this. Stalker Girl called me today. Yes, called me on the phone. :eek: It was quite strange.
The first time the phone rang twice and when I answered the person hung up on me. The second time, it rang once then disconnected before I could answer it. The third, I answered and said, “hello?â€ÂÂ
Her: “Hello?â€ÂÂ
Me: “Hello??â€ÂÂ
Her: “Val-ree?â€ÂÂ
Me: “YES?â€ÂÂ
Her: “Chen yee.â€ÂÂ
Me: “He-lloo??â€ÂÂThis was followed by the sounds of air being breathed by a person who’s either not able to make up her mind, or doesn’t speak English very well. So I hung up. I’m not going to sit there and listen to someone breathing.
If you’re reading here, SG, do not call me. If you do, I will be tracing the call next time. And, no, I don’t have to keep you on the line for 3 minutes to do it, like they do in the movies.
“Precious lovers” commented on that item:
She phoned you? I think she got nervous. I think she might have used a handphone or something to prevent her parents form detecting it. Val, watch out. Your bills might get high because of her. I think you better get a Whois Guard to protect yourself.
And that just further shows that she doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
AND NOW, moving along, this is great, this one really made me laugh. Emailed to me by Stalker Girl, as herself, on September 14:
Long time no talk :D I have been away to Singapore for the past two months since I was in a competition. My cousin was managing all my site and email stuff when I was away.
I got to be honest with you, I am sillyshadow69@gmail.com, icy.hearts@gmail.com, lim.wan.shen@gmail.com . I have thought it over when I was in Singapore. I couldn’t feel right when I was away so I decided to tell the truth.
Regarding my website. I let my cousin take charge of my PC when I was away and I told her to mantain it while I was gone. Unfortunately, I can’t see it.
Why aren’t you online today? You always seemed online all the time before I went to Singapore. When I was in Singapore, it was work, work and more work.
My cousin said that she angered you. I have no idea why because she deleted all emails from this address to you and vice-versa.
Bye :D
The nerve!!! LOL Okay so I ignored the email though, and two days later on September 16:
You can have my domain! Do whatever you want with it! I don’t want it anymore! Just stop trying to make youre friends spam my once spam-free email ok? Stop posting about me, stop telling the world about me, just STOP! I am sick of your emails of you trying to get rid of me. I will stop going to your sites, etc, etc, etc. I know you’re mad at me so we’ll just go on our own paths! NO need to talk to each other till we die! ok? I don’t want anything more to do with you.
I lied, ok? I got greedy! Just leave me alone! I hate being accused as a stalker. Whatever you blame me for, go on! there’s NO ONE to stop you. Blame me till I die! Blame me till I rot! Just leave me alone. Stop with your attitude. I am just a kid! I don’t even have the free will to do whate1ver I please so we’ll just forget even knowing each other! And I’ll forget even having a domain!
Even of you replied to this email, it will be put into trash, you hear me? I will ignore all mails from you. I will act as if I don’t know you. I will move on to what’s right that is not knowing you at all!
Be nice to kids. I know that you’re a parent. If you can be nice to your son, be nice to others.
Good bye forever!
This email text was red with a pink background and the “Good bye forever!” was in about 24 point text and centered. And notice how she tries to shift all the blame? Now, maybe I should have just not replied to this, but it pissed me off royally. So I took it piece by piece and replied to it. I emailed it to her and also set up the domain name with an account and posted it there, I think that was Owen’s suggestion. ;-)
I’m sorry, honey, but the last word is not yours to have. You are the one who started this, I am going to finish it, and you’re going to listen. Or I will continue to send this email from all my addresses to all of yours until I am confident that you have read it.
You know the difference between me and you, not a stalker and a stalker? I do have numerous email addresses and websites, but I admit it, I don’t lie about who I am. You, on the other hand, created fake people in an attempt to take me for all I’m worth and get free stuff from me after I was already nice to you and did something for you that I’ve only done for close family – buy you a domain and asked for nothing in return other than honesty.
Now, let’s take this one piece at a time, shall we?
You can have my domain! Do whatever you want with it! I don’t want it anymore! Of course I can have it, I paid for it, after all. Do you even want to know why I changed the nameservers on you? In all the thousands of emails you sent me regarding this (that I have ignored), you have failed to ask me one important thing: WHY. Why did I change the nameservers on you and the WHOIS information? I’ll tell you why – I talked to a psychatrist who advised me not to give it to you. He thinks you’re nuts. That is why I changed nameservers.
Just stop trying to make youre friends spam my once spam-free email ok? This is really funny, especially when you consider that as “Silly Shadow” you said specifically, “I will continue to spam you until you unblock me.” Oh yeah, that’s incentive to unblock you from visiting my sites. Now it’s my spam-free email that is getting spam and it’s also funny that you are using the exact words I used on my blog when discussing this issue. I have not, as you say, tried to make my friends spam you. If they did it, they did it of their own free will. I don’t even believe you here anyway, you’ve lied too much already. Forward me emails proving that my friends have spammed you and let me deal with them.
Stop posting about me, stop telling the world about me, just STOP! You know what? My website, I’ll post what I want. Get over it. If you don’t like it, stop lying and doing stupid things that would warrant someone to write about you. The world deserves to know about you, they should know before you find someone else to stalk.
I am sick of your emails of you trying to get rid of me. What emails? Seriously, c’mon. When’s the last time I sent you an email? I’ll tell you when, besides this one here now, it was four days ago, on Monday, in response to the thousands of emails you sent me regarding the domain name. You said, “I didn’t mean to make you angry with me but I have reasons.” I wanted to know what those reasons supposedly are. I asked, you answered, I ignored again.
You then sent me another email on Wednesday claiming that you were in Singapore this whole time and that your cousin “angered” me and when I didn’t answer that one either you sent this one two days later. You are the most impatient person I’ve ever met. I never met someone before who waits a couple of days, hours, or even minutes and when the desired response is not received, changes their whole story. One second you are begging, the next you are attempting to tell me off.
And, as far as the Singapore thing goes, that’s just stupid. What makes you think I was going to believe that? Seriously. Who in their right mind would allow someone to “manage” their sites and email while they were gone, personal sites and emails, that is? Seriously, you just give your password to her to let her check your email? Riiiiiight. Whatever you say. (Can you tell this is dripping with sarcasm here?)I will stop going to your sites, etc, etc, etc. It’s also funny how you seem to address everything in this email that I told this “Precious Lovers” who claims she is not you. It’s funny how I receive emails from you about something I just told “her.” Yes, you need to stop coming to my sites because apparently you don’t have the will power to visit and not be a liar and a thief at the same time.
I know you’re mad at me so we’ll just go on our own paths! NO need to talk to each other till we die! ok? I don’t want anything more to do with you. Who ever said I’m mad? I’m not angry, really. This is just all rediculous that’s all. And because of your constant IP changing you have me wondering who you really are. So, yes, I talked to my cousin the cop, as you know. I’m glad you want nothing more to do with me, and when I get word on your real name and location, trust me, I’ll have nothing to do with you anymore either. Except, of course, notifying your parents of your online activities, and sending them a bill for the website design you ripped off. Yes, I am serious. That is, of course, if you even have parents. My cousin is convinced you are some 45-year-old pervert of the male persuasion.
You’re really scared, aren’t you? I can’t wait for your mommy and daddy to find out what you do online…
I lied, ok? I got greedy! I’ll say. How about you try working for things in life instead of being a mooch? Communist.
Just leave me alone! I hate being accused as a stalker. Whatever you blame me for, go on! there’s NO ONE to stop you. Blame me till I die! Blame me till I rot! Just leave me alone. Again this is funny since you are the one sending all the emails and visiting my sites as fake people and spamming my email address, etc. If when I confronted you months ago about you being Silly Shadow, if you had just confessed then, we could have avoided all of this. But you had to lie and claim that you see her across the room. You then had to create more personalities to try and get free stuff from me. I lay blame with you because you did do all of this and finally you admit it. But again, who’s stalking who here? I’m the one who doesn’t lie about my identity, you are the one with 12 personalities or so. One of which you even claim to be your little brother! Please! I’m glad you hate being “accused as a stalker” maybe you’ll think twice before you start bothering someone else next time. They may not be as nice as me, you could end up with a crashed computer on your hands.
And, oh, I love how you contradict yourself with each and every thing you say!!!
Stop with your attitude. Attitude? What attitude? Do you like being lied to? Do you like being taken advantage of? Do you like being harrassed? I would think not. You started this, don’t try and shift the blame and responsibilties to me. You are obviously the one with problems here.
I am just a kid! That’s your excuse? That is no excuse. You obviously had the brains to attempt to fake other people – therefore you knew what you were doing. You knew it was wrong or you wouldn’t have attempted to hide behind fake people.
I don’t even have the free will to do whate1ver I please That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard before. You don’t have the free will to do whatever you please? Then what was all this? All these fake personalities? C’mon. Tell me something I can believe.
so we’ll just forget even knowing each other! And I’ll forget even having a domain! Sounds good to me. And I don’t think you’ll forget having a domain. Seems to me you have at least two more of them already. I’m sure you’ll start bothering some other person soon who tries to be nice to you.
Even of you replied to this email, it will be put into trash, you hear me? I will ignore all mails from you. I will act as if I don’t know you. I will move on to what’s right that is not knowing you at all! What are you trying to be, my mommy? Do I hear you? Sure, but I don’t care anymore. I will continue to send this email, as I already said, until I get a response verifying that you’ve read it. Just an “okay” will do. Nothing elaborate please.
Be nice to kids. I know that you’re a parent. If you can be nice to your son, be nice to others. Again, that doesn’t make any sense. You are the first person ever that I’ve had to act like this with. No one has ever treated me the way that you have. I am a nice person, that’s what got me into this mess in the first place, don’t you understand that?
Good bye forever! Same to you.
After a little advice: GROW UP!
Learn to make your own way instead of being a freeloader.
Don’t try to be someone else, real or fake.
Don’t lie. And if you do, confess as soon as possible, don’t let the lies become bigger than you are!–
Chien Yee
The right thing to do is to shut yourself up from the worldMmmhmmm… Sure. Why don’t you go do that, then?
And even though I said “nothing elabroate” this is the reply I got, four days later (the longest ever!) on September 20:
Lieing i’m sorry for being impatient. I really am. I just got lots of stress recently. I am a head girl in class and if anything goes wrong, the one who gets blamed is me. i am real sorry. about the email to singapore, I lied to get back my site cause at first I wanted it badly.
About the phone call. I phoned you to actually say sorry. It was just that my parent’s cellphone had actually finished the prepaid credit so it dropped the line. I just didn’t have the guts for the first two. I actually spent $5 on calling you.
presonalities and the “precious lovers” person is actually another personality. I just wanted to talk to you so that i knew more details. when you asked me months ago, i just got worried that you’d didn’t want to give me back my domain. my parents have actually made my time less since they found out about it when my computer was on and the gmail windows were open. i really apologise. i will stop all those spam.
about the design i ripped off. i don’t have the money ok? please don’t send them a bill. they’d get mad. i just got so mad when you just stopped talking to me. it was like poof! disappear. we still have lots of bils to pay. My parents told me to apologise straight to you about this to prevent their woes.
about the IPs. that’s something I really want to tell you about. I have no idea how it changes but then its the truth. I think it changes because whoever logs in first will get the IPs first.
What i’ve thought. I have thought it over and then i realised that I was being a baby. I WILL think of a way to pay you. I WILL try to make money and pay you back. i promise you. thanks for the advice. i WILL follow it. I thought everything over and decided to do one thing right. I wanted to confess. i apologise deeply. I am so sorry I accused you wrongly. I never thought of asking you about the NameServers. sorry.
If you want to tell my mom through email, her email is tan_joo_lee@yahoo.com and this is no lie. she would probably apologise to you. I confronted my sister about all that i’ve done. she told me to tell the truth and apologise.
About the shadow email…. the spam part. when I told myself I was mean, I stopped even signing up your email for stuff I wanted to use.
if you want to phone my house, the number is ______. You can direct talk to me or my parents, up to you.
Your cousin is wrong about who I am. I am only fourteen and I am not a guy. Chien Yee means Beautiful. Can a guy’s name be like that?
I realised you posted on your site all the bad things that i’ve done. You never told them that I made the candle picture for you. which you never used
I feel that I have lied too much. Though i’m not a christian, I believe in God, Jesus and Mother Mary. I studied in a mission school until 2003. In the mission school, I learned about Christ and I plan to be a fellow Christian when I grow up.
I really didn’t know anything about cyber-crime until you told me. I never knew using other’s design was a crime too. I started using the internet just last year so I really don’t know and also because my country didn’t know really have the info on cyber-crime.
I know you told me not to elaborate but I had to tell the truth. Lieing got me to feel uneasy and upset. I will never lie to you now. Not since you’ve been so nice to me before until I got greedy.
I should’ve been honest in the first place. Now I know i’ve done wrong, sorry. I will try to stop now.
btw, i really wanted to talk to you last time because I felt alone in this world. you see, no one even aknowledges that I live. no one bothers about me. no one actually been nice to me in my whole life until you came along.
I can give you anything you ask me to, except for money. paying cash be mail is the only option I can do to give you but then its unsafe. I might be able to pay you when i grow up but then I am still 14. I have been trying to do jobs in the internet to just pay you back. that’s why I asked for your paypal. I posted in a forum that i’d do designing work last time so that they could pay you as in send the payments to you via your paypal.
The free will thing is that my internet time is limited as now my parents limit it to 2 hours every two days. especially when they found out what i’ve did.
I hate what I did. I regretted that I even had. I knew I was a jerk to you but I tried to mend my ways by being a help to others.
I got the lemonale.com from OpenDomain.org that’s when I stopped asking for a domain.
I’ll give you all my emails:
* chienyee@gmail.com
* chienyee2002@yahoo.com
* icy.hearts@gmail.com
* sillyshadow69@gmail.com
* ms.rainbow.skies@gmail.com (was your hostee before until she lost interest in the internet)
* hhammond@gmail.com (I shared this with my internet buddy and she gave it to me in the end)
* sky.echoes@gmail.com
* ms.ivy.tan@gmail.com
* preciouslovers@gmail.com
* precious_lovers@operamail.com
* icy_chien_yee@msn.com (I don’t use it anymore)
* chienrocks@yahoo.co.uk
* tancutty00@yahoo.com
* rainbow_faerie_of_the_rfg@yahoo.com (expired)This is all the honest truth. I do hope you will believe me. This time I went way over the border. I just don’t want my whole family to look at me in a cold manner.
sorry
I’d understand if you won’t reply but please do. I know you were sarcastic because I really pissed you off. i even done that to a classmate.
ok. that’s all
The “sorry” was red and centered and underlined and big.
I swear, I’m a pushover. I know, I am. I replied that I forgave her and listed what I wanted her to do, telling her that I’d give her back the domain if she did things like stop lying about who she is, stop stealing designs, change her philosophy.nu profile to read her own location (instead of my city, stop harrassing people for free stuff especially when they’re not offering in the first place, etc. I told her that she must give me her proper information for the WHOIS of the domain. I then addressed a few more issues such as the candle image and why I didn’t use it, etc. We shared a couple of more emails like normal people when I got this one on October 4 (partial):
val, I have one little request to make. can you please remove all your posts of me? I really don’t want everyone to distrust me anymore. I really feel that way. honest.
I intend to change emails from now on. this email has 50 spams a day. all about those adult-related stuff.
I know this might seem kind of excessive to ask but then can I beg you to not write to my parents at all. I have just mended the broken ties due to this and I think they might be thinking “Oh she did it again to that lady”. I really am worried that I could never be loved like before again.
it was almost two weeks before I replied:
No, I never delete posts. But they are all passworded, so that should suffice.
No response on that directly and I guess that’s when I thought she was for real gone, but on October 27 from her, subject “Confessions and fulfilling a promise”:
I am so sorry. I lied again.
My parents don’t know of it.
I just wanted them to live longer. They are over 50 years old. My mom is a very ill woman. Please understand my love for her and my dad.
I sent an attachment of me in my school uniform. This is to proove that I’m me and no one else.
I have one last question to ask you. If you knew I was all the other personalities, why did you at first still talked to me?
She attached a 100×100px photo that’s supposedly from her. Again I did not respond and on November 2:
are you very mad at me for what I did? I know I shouldn’t. I just got worried. I know I’m wrong. I know you’ve been online days ago. Sorry for being impatient. Sorry for everything
I didn’t reply to that and a week later I got several things from Flickr:
Hi anela,
You are oinkity’s newest contact! If you don’t know
oinkity, oinkity is probably a fan of your photos or wants
a bookmark so they can find you again. There is no
obligation for you to reciprocate, unless you want to. :)Here’s a link to oinkity’s profile:
http://www.flickr.com/people/oinkity/
You can see all of oinkity’s contacts here:
http://www.flickr.com/people/oinkity/contacts/
And photos here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/oinkity/
So, check ‘em out!
Now, she’s changed her profile since then to display her location and domain name rather than pretty much nothing. She only had me listed as contact, too, no others, and certainly no photos. So the next thing I know I’ve got this comment on this photo:
wow. its very nice. I love it too. Makes me feel that Christianity is always there for me to stare at whenever I come here. You did a lot of photography based on Christianity and I praise you for it
And this via Flickr Mail:
Wow! Your photography skills are beautiful :) I feel so jealous. I only have the old type camera given to me by my dad and I can’t upload unless I scanned my pictures. Anyways, I want to tell you that you did nice pictures in your whole photostream (I have only time to see some but the baby pictures are cute)
I saw your site http://resonate.ws and I must say your photography is nice. I checked your other domain that you used to host yourself and I must say the site was nice.
The design was simple yet elegant. I browsed through your web designs and found it as pretty as your photography. Did you write the design script yourself or not?
By the way, is http://spoken-for.org your domain? I searched google for Spoken For as the link wasn’t there and it displayed that URL. I must say that the design was fascinating and enchanting at the same time. I guess the owner is you since at the first post I saw this text
"* I, anela, blogged this straight from Flickr, come visit me there, if you like."Please stay in touch with me. I am realy interested to be firends.
~*~*~* Oinkity *~*~*~
Now, how is that not obviously her? Duh. And because I blocked her immediately, it also deleted that comment above.
So, now in response to that email on Nov 2 where she asked me if I was mad at her:
Look, we both know it’s you on Flickr. I thought we agreed that you were going to leave me alone? Start it again and I will start posting about you again and talk to my cousin again who will get in touch with your parents. I am not kidding. You promised not to make any more profiles.
And don’t think for a second that you can convince me you’re not the one on Flickr that has contacted me. I’ll go ahead and tell you why I know this is you:
1. This “person” says things to me that only you have said.
2. This “person” says things to me that no one else says to me when they meet me. People do not email you and ask if a different website is yours.
3. This “person” contacted me from Flickr and talked about resonate.ws instead of talking to me first as resonate as most people would do.
4. This “person” goes off on a tangent about my website design. That is not something normal people do when they first talk to you, either.
5. The sentance structure is like yours. Believe it or not, I am a good analyst of the English language and see lots of charactaristics in people’s writing.
6. This “person” added me to GoogleTalk. No person that I don’t already know has done that besides you. I don’t even use it.And most importantly, 7, a person who visits resonate.ws and then adds me as contact at Flickr DOES NOT KNOW MY EMAIL ADDRESS TO ADD ME TO ANYTHING. My email address on Flickr is only visible to MY contacts. Furthermore, even if this “person” isn’t you – they’re already stalking me.
Finally, in regards to your email below – so what if I was online “days ago”? That’s my peroggative. And just because I’m online doesn’t mean I check/read email. Get a clue.
Just please leave me alone.
Yeah, that’s right. “Onkity” couldn’t get my email address from resonate or Flickr.
That was on the 10th, her reply to me on the 11th:
ok. i admit again.
Me:
What is your problem? Why do you insist on doing this to me? What is wrong?
Her:
It was just that you didn’t reply. Sorry for being impatient yet again. this was to make you reply to me. sorry.
Me:
Make me reply about what, exactly? What makes you think I have to reply to you about anything? We had agreed not to talk anymore, at least for a while. Because I can’t trust you right now, for obvious reasons. I don’t owe you anything, least of all replies.
Her, Nov 12:
about the past emails I sent. sorry.
I ignored that one.
Then. Then. Then. THEN!!!
She adds Sarah as her contact on Flickr! Sarah! Dragging her into this again! That really pissed me off for some reason (Sarah’s email all goes through me, too, for her protection, not that she knows how to read it anyway) and, subject GO AWAY, from me to her:
Do you think I do not monitor the kid’s online activities? Do you think she actually uses the email? No, her email all goes through me. Do not visit her site, do not visit her Flickr account, do not email her. In fact, GO AWAY, like I’ve told you a thousand times before. You asked that I not post on my blog about you, I said that I would not if you left me and my friends and family alone, you have broken that agreement. I will say what I want and others will be aware of you. Just go away.
Her reply, 12 hours ago:
Take note here:
1. OINKITY@GMAIL.COM WAS MY FIRST GMAIL EMAIL UNTIL I LEFT IT FOR THIS ONE.
2. I JUST WANTED TO BE FRIENDLY WITH YOUR SIS-IN-LAW SO IS THAT A CRIME? I AM NOT STALKING YOU AT ALL THIS TIME. CAN’T I MAKE FRIENDS?
3. THE.GLADIATRIX IS MY FRIENDS’ EMAIL AND SHE WAS ASKING ME TO HELP HER FIND WHO DOES WEBDESIGN OKAY?
4. IF YOU WANT ME TO LEAVE YOU ALONE, SURE. JUST DELETE AND NOT PROTECT OR PRIVATISE YOUR POSTS ABOUT ME. AND I MEAN IT.
5. I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I GOT AN EMAIL FROM NO ONE ABOUT (no subject) WHICH SAID YOU POSTED BOUT ME. YEESH.
6. THE CONTRACT WILL BE BACK IF YOU DELETE THE POST. I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP MY PROMISE SO LONG AS ALL POSTS ARE DELETED.–
Chien Yee
为什� ä½Â ä¸ÂÂ会自æÂ€ä½Â æ¯ÂÂç‹â€â€!
1. So?
2. Yes, it is, when you’re stalking me first. Leaving me alone means you do not contact my family, either, especially little kids.
3. So? Proves she’s read my site.
4. This is funny, really. I mean, seriously, how dare she tell me what to do with my site when she’s the one who started all of this. C’mon. That right there just led me to unprotect everything.
5. Liar. Again.
6. There really wasn’t a contract, other than verbal. And that contract was that she leave me alone, no if’s, and’s or but’s. Look, CHIENYEE you cannot add to a contract once an agreement has been made. LEAVE ME ALONE.
So that’s where we stand. Be prepared for anything and everything to be posted from here on out. Oh, and look at this: http://lemonale.com/to-valerie.php :lmao:
[Update] Apparently her signature (为什� ä½Â ä¸ÂÂ会自æÂ€ä½Â æ¯ÂÂç‹â€â€!) means “why don’t you kill yourself you bitch” (thanks, Tammy and Mel for the translations). Now, isn’t that just special? [/Update]
I'm Valerie, late 20's, from Missouri. I'm married... with children: a young boy and a baby girl. I enjoy many things including photography, candle making, videography, history, and mythology. Baby Girl was born 11 weeks early after my water was broken for 8 weeks - she's my little miracle - so you're bound to hear a lot about her progress here. I am also a second generation homeschooler, that's bound to come up as well.
Bes
November 18th, 2005 at 2.03 pm
[this is long and I couldn't help it but post it, so I apologize in advance, you can edit it if you wish]
HAHA. Sorry, but HAHA. First, thanks for making my Friday morning a good one; this was a very nice read, and it seems you can narrate and remember events very well!
Now, unless she’s a confused kid, she really does have issues. Her parents don’t let her online that much, and yet she has time to email you so much? Calling you on the phone was scary, in my view. She spent 5 bucks on calling you; wow, she deserves a medal, eh? The phone company can easily find out the number it came from when it becomes a police matter, even if it was a prepaid card, as they keep a track of everything and the card number can be tracked back to the number it was dialed from. A big LOL @ “And, no, I don’t have to keep you on the line for 3 minutes to do it, like they do in the movies.” LOL @ the cousin angering you [sep 14th, her coming back from Singapore], heh. This is too childish and funny; congratulations to stalker girl for getting her own category at least. :p
lol @ explaining to her that it’s sarcasm…lol.
ROFL @ mooch=Communist. I haven’t had this much pain laughing since the accident [jk].
Dragging family or friends into such a childish thing is a big no-no; she has no idea what she’s getting into. She also wants to tell you how to manage your site, : “I MEAN IT”; or else she’s going to keep stalking? The cops who crack on cyber-crime will have a field day on this one. If you’re reading this Stalker Girl, you need therapy at your school or any hospital; they give it for free, and not even your parents will be informed about it. Better to use that for counseling than to get into trouble, trust me!
So many things on her site that have been copied from you. lol @ to-valerie.php page;
She is psychotic; she’s gonna have a kid named Norman and that kid is gonna take all her characteristics and make a real life sequel to Psycho.
I can see this on NBC; “Today’s undercover story : Stalker Girl, is she a real stalker, or just a 14 year old kid trying to get attention of a popular blog owner? We cover it all, tonight at 11, and tell you how a 14 year old got arrested and has to pay up for her mistakes for the rest of her life.”
Thanks for sharing this Valerie; I’m going to print this out and share it with people I know, if you don’t mind. :p
Nicole Ross
November 18th, 2005 at 2.21 pm ♥
Oh my wow. I don’t even know what to say. At first it was semi-amusing, semi-creepy, but by the end she’s just so full on creepy. She is obviously a very confused child and I think you are handling the situation much better than I would have. I just … I don’t even know what to say.
Jason
November 18th, 2005 at 3.32 pm
She’s already passworded that post, Val and it’s not in Google Cache.
Val
November 18th, 2005 at 3.57 pm
Yeah it was passworded when I got to it. It’s funny because the title of it is To Valerie yet she doesn’t care to grace me with the password. It probably doesn’t say anything anyway, probably just a blank post there to try and yank my chain. ;-)
Christine
November 18th, 2005 at 8.16 pm
O-M-G. Seriously now it’s time to get her parents involved. It’s easy to get her real address from the phone number she gave you. You should definitely file formal charges against her. Make her family pay the money to fly to the US for a court hearing! If she does indeed even live in another country.
Oy vey. She has SO crossed over the line too many times. It’s scary.
delirium
November 19th, 2005 at 12.15 am ♥
She really sounds mentally unbalanced. Way-off the charts. I second the pressing of charges suggestion. I think it’s the only way to show her that she has to seriously stop all this nonsense. It’s pure harrassment.
Vix
November 19th, 2005 at 7.04 am ♥
Ignore her. Completely and utterly. All comments, emails, profiles etc. – to you or anyone else – should be deleted immediately and without retaliation.
She’s thriving on your reaction. Don’t fuel her fire and eventually she’ll HAVE to stop for it’s not getting her anyway . . .
V xx
lime
November 19th, 2005 at 4.36 pm
Oh, my! I’m speechless as well…almost. This girl (if it’s what she is..) is totally craze.
Val
November 22nd, 2005 at 9.16 am
Hmmmm, apparently her signature in that last email, the one with the caps (为什么ä½Â ä¸ÂÂ会自æÂ€ä½Â æ¯ÂÂç‹â€â€!) means “why don’t you kill yourself you bitch.” Thanks, Tammy and Mel for the translations. Now, isn’t that just special?
Lisa
December 30th, 2005 at 4.51 am ♥
What Vix said. Everytime you make a post, you validate her. Everytime you mention her, even in passing, you validate her. Just like children having tantrums, the only way to make it stop is to ignore it completely. Seriously – you have to stop because it’s looking to me like you’re getting a little obsessed with the situation. You say you don’t delete posts, but you really must. I’m really sorry to say this and I know you won’t like it, but you need to do this if you want to avoid looking like you’re enjoying the attention.
Christine
December 30th, 2005 at 9.36 am
Before you open your mouth about something KNOW THE FACTS. You don’t know the whole situation. She DID try completely ignoring this girl and that just made it worse. The police are even involved. This is her blog. This is what people talk about on their blogs, what is going on in their lives. So her talking about this does NOT make her obsessed. I would love to see what you would do if this was happening to you.
Val
December 31st, 2005 at 10.59 am
Thank you Lisa, for your comments, however, what Christine says is true. I tried everything from telling her off to completely ignoring her for months. In fact, the ignoring her does more damage than telling her off and posting about her. That’s what causes her to create new profiles to harrass me. And, yes, the police are involved. Last week, my cousin the cop actually suggested I “give her a taste of her own medicine.”
One of these days one of two things will happen: 1. she’ll grow up and quit all this immature behavior, 2. she’ll get into trouble and have to stop.
Until then, I manage the best way I know how, doing what is right at the time depending on the exact situations.