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Why Geek Squad, Best Buy, and Compaq all suck.

 

We all know I despise Compaq and Best Buy and we all know that I now despise myself for going to them not that one time, but now a secondtime. For background info, in 2001, we bought a Compaq desktop and had nothing but trouble with it. The first time it crashed good, I called Best Buy because we had bought the 3 year extended warranty where they’re supposed to come to our house to fix it. They told us - for some unknown reason - it was not their problem, call Compaq. They in turn told us it wasn’t their problem to call Best Buy. This went back and forth a couple of times before I decided I was going to have to fix it myself.

All that was before HP acquired Compaq so even though I still dislike Best Buy, I went there again and ended up buying m laptop there the beginning of November.

A month and a half later, I go to use the cd rom and it’s gone. Not listed in My Computer, the device manager says there’s a problem with it, and I can’t reinstall the driver, a system roll back did nothing - so I took it into Best Buy. Again, I have the three year extended warranty, this one for bring in service. Note that nothing else was wrong with the system. Just the cd rom was gone.

On Wednesday, December 14, I drop off the laptop. They tell me they are extremely backed up and give me a projected date of being done as Thursday, December 22.

Fast forward to Sunday, December 18, I’m at church and Steve’s home with Elijah who’s sick. He calls me afterward and tells me that Best Buy called and said the computer was ready, I could pick it up at any time.

So on Monday the 19th, I travel an hour south to pick it up.

One of the first things the guy tells me is that the computer system of the all mighty Geek Squad is down and has been down/slow for the better part of the day (this was about 11am). So he can’t pull my info. But I’ve got my paper so he finds my laptop by that.

He brings it out and says, “did they call to authorize a charge for reinstalling your operating system?”

“Uh, what? No. I just got a call that said it was ready, come to get it. Why would they need to reinstall the operating system?”

“Because Windows got corrupted.”

“Uhhh, okay… no, I didn’t get a call for that.”

“Oh okay then.”

After some more meaningless conversation, I am looking at the papers and I say something like, “so do I have to pay for that?”

“Oh, no, if they didn’t call to authorize it, then you don’t have to pay for it.” I ask him, out of curiosity, how much would it cost. He gives me a figure just short of $60.

Something tells me to, so I try to turn on the laptop. When I open the computer up, I notice that my screen is extremely dusty, much dustier than it has ever been. He says something about the battery being dead and asks if he should plug it in. Um, hello, YES. He plugs it in and I turn it on.

Immediately we are greeted with a nice blue screen and some errors. He begins tapping on it and pressing keys and saying things like, “Hmmm, I wonder why it’s doing that.” And, “Strange.”

He pops out a cd that is an obvious burned copy that reads “Windows XP Service Pack 2″ in black marker. He pops it back in and messes with the computer some more. Next thing I know, he’s saying things again about how the system is down and so he can’t find out who worked on the computer, blah blah blah. Basically telling me to leave and wait for their call.

By now, I’m really ticked off. I tell him how I brought it in only for the cd rom, I got a call that it was ready to go home with me, that I drove an hour to pick it up because of that, no one else called me other than that call, and that I needed this computer for business purposes. So he starts scribbling notes down and takes my cell phone number, in case it’s ready while I’m still in that stupid town.

We go to do the only other thing in that town that we were there for, which is another story all in its own. Basically we stood at the Cingular store for literally an hour and 15 minutes before we were helped (some guy who arrived after us was helped first) and then another 15 or so minutes while she “took care” of us. And then left while my mother-in-law and sister-in-law stayed for another 20 minutes to handle their business. The woman was completely incompetent, I swear.

Anyway, after a late lunch around 2pm, I decide to go back to Best Buy.

I wait in line again and then talk to someone else. He was the same guy that took my RAM from me when I dropped the computer off. Oh, yeah, I had them add in 512 ram instead of the 256 it had - that, as far as I can tell, is the only thing the all mighty Geek Squad has done correctly.* So anyway, I tell him what was going on and that I was there to check on it.

The computer is sitting right there on the counter where I left it earlier. There’s a note on it to finish it asap and call my cell phone. No one knows what’s going on though, and he goes in the back to find out.

He returns with a “yeah, your operating system was corrupted and we have to reinstall it, that’s why the cd rom wasn’t working.” Some other guy comes up behind him and confirms this. They open the cd rom and there’s that burned cd again, “yeah, see?” (Like that shows me that the operating system was indeed corrupted, or something.) He says that it’s completely operating system stuff that stopped my cd rom and that no diagnostics turned up anything hardware related. He tells me that many things can cause this, and he strongly stresses viruses and adware. I know this is not the case. It was clean. I’m good and keeping my stuff clean. He tries to tell me that Internet Explorer was messed up, too. I know this is not true, as well.

He then feeds me some bull about them trying to contact me about the reinstall but that the phone number I gave them was bad. That is complete bull crap and without using so many words, I tell him this. I say that I got a phone call on Sunday morning telling me that the computer was finished. And furthermore, this I did not mention, if they had tried to call me and I was not home or the phone did not get answered, they would have been on the callerID, which they weren’t except for that Sunday morning call. So right there, I know I am being lied to and I wonder what other crap they’re trying to feed me.

What I ended up doing then, was not paying for them to reinstall anything and I take the computer home. I do the reinstall myself. Of course, this was after some trouble as I don’t know what the heck they did to the computer, but it didn’t want to do anything at first for me. I then spend several hours on this and trying to get it back into my home network.

What I want to know is this:
1. If they knew the problem was corrupted files in the Operating System and they “could not” get a hold of me to authorize the reinstall - WHY did they wipe out my operating system in the first place? You’d think they’d want to really get a hold of me to authorize that and try to talk me into allowing them to back up my data for their “so very low” price of $89.
2. Why did they call me to tell me the computer is finished if it so obviously wasn’t??
3. And most importantly, who’s copy of Windows XP were they trying to install on my computer?

And this is why I am kicking myself very hard for buying another computer not just from Best Buy but a Compaq. I swear, any more problems with this thing and they’re going to fix it, then I’m going to sell it and get another Dell. So there. Haha.

The best thing out of all of this? My Geek Squad casefile came a sheet of those little word magnets. Now I can spell out “I hate Geek Squad” on my refrigerator. :-P

I hate Geek Squad

* - actually, at the time I wrote this post I guess I was so wrapped up in reinstalling everything that I did not realize the RAM was not installed correctly. I purchased 512 MB but I was only running 512MB meaning I got screwed out of another 256MB. I took it back in and, they claim, the package I purchased was incorrectly labeled and was actually 256MB. Whatever it was, they traded it out and I am now running 760MB.

MORE UPDATES:
Yesssss, thank you very much, I understand about the Windows CD. This has been explained time and time again. Of course, I will never know if you all are right if I cannot test it out myself. But don’t bother bringing it up over and over again as it has already been done.

Secondly, after getting my system running again and posting this post, it was less than a week later when the CD rom pulled the same disappearing act. The solution? Two measly lines in the registry. Amazing how four guys at Geek Squad could not figure this out and had to corrupt my operating system instead. Quick fix guys, not a permanent solution… or a trained one, for that matter.

More Interesting Articles (added to as I find them):

Compute Repair Fraud on YouTube
Best Buy’s ‘Geek Squad’ Accused of Pirating Software - April 13, 2006
Couple’s Supposedly Destroyed Hard Drive Purchased In Chicago - June 1, 2006
My Best Buy Nightmare - October 26, 2005

Finally, I’m tired of putting up with idiots, morons, imbeciles, etc. If you can’t leave a comment in a respectful manner and present yourself in a reasonable and respectable way, you can bet your comment will be deleted without question. This includes any comments that attempt to attack me as a person or are from someone who obviously has not read the whole post or other comments. All comments posted here are automatically held for moderation due to the “statute of limitations on commenting” on this post. To those who can express themselves intelligently… I thank you, and please do leave your comments whether you agree with me or not. Just don’t be a moron. :)

And now from here (Feb. 28, 2007) on out, comments on this post will not be accepted/approved from people who leave no name, leave Anonymous for their name, or leave an obviously fake name. If you don’t want to leave a real name, at least make it look real. It’s too confusing otherwise and it fakes out some parts of my site. Thanks.

 

153 Responses to “Why Geek Squad, Best Buy, and Compaq all suck.”

  1.  

    Ugh, I’m sorry you had such a terrible experience with the tech support. I’ve heard that Dell isn’t much better in terms of customer service though, although supposedly their products (provided that they actually ship you the correct one) *are* more reliable. I guess we all really need to take heed of the “Buyer Beware” warning.

  2.  

    Your Best Buy sucks… My Brother has had acomputer with them since early 2000 and over that time has gotten two new laptops for nothing. Somehting went wrong with the machine and Best buy bout it for what a similiar computer sold for. U need to move to a cooler place. :-P

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    Wow, that is a terrible crappy arse day in my opinion! Our Geek Squad always seems to be wondering around aimlessly… never busy or “working” at all. I have personal friends fix my comouter issues and NEVER buy those warranties because they never cover the problems that pop-up :( Better luck for the future I hope. *Hugs and a little holiday cheer for you.*

  4.  

    WHAT?!!

    Let’s see…earlier this year, I wanted my hard drive data backed up and I took it to geek Squad and they said the data was corrupted and the drive unusable. But, wouldn’t you know? I popped it into my computer and it’s still working.

    My mom and I decided that Best Buy and Circuit City are both crappy stores. You have to pull a lot of stings and people’s body parts, for that matter, to get what you want from Best Buy, and from Circuit City, you have to kill everyone who works for them to get something (only kidding, but it feels that way..) Geek Squad is there to screw people royally.

    Ever Since Geek Squad merged with Best Buy, Pete’s Mom is looking bad. (Pete is a former class mate and his mom was one of the founders of the Geek Squad).

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    And this is where I’m going to say that somewhere in the week I’ve had the laptop back, the CD ROM again disappeared from view and was unusable. And then I found this article on Microsoft telling me to delete two registry keys. So far so good. Though, I don’t really get it, because the article was in reference to the CD ROM no longer working after uninstalling some specific programs for cd burning (used these on the old Compaq desktop I had). Either way, we’re running so far. And that’s good. Because I was getting quite upset that this happened again so fast (or at all for that matter). I wonder if one of my programs is doing this, but then again, I’ve not anything that’s different from my desktop programs on here…

    Okay, enough of this…

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    Geek Squad; interestingly, in my area, Geek Squad employs anyone who wants to go through training, even if they’re not into computers. Some managers are strict when it comes to employment, while others depend on training. I’ll be posting a really ‘interesting’ story about BestBuy soon.
    It’s like CircuitCity; walk near the cameras section or computer section and ask any tech associate there which is the bext computer, and they’ll always recommend the most expensive thing. Or at Fry’s [frys.com], they’ll even say 128 mb ram is enough to sell low-end generic systems they’re carrying for their specials season.
    Now, if we can’t trust retail stores where we have the luxury of taking our stuff directly and talking to someone, what can we do? Trust mailing things back and forth to the companies directly? That sucks.

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    Have you ever stopped to think that the “windows xp service pack 2″ cd JUST contained the service pack and not the whole Windows? Pretty common..

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    1. If they knew the problem was corrupted files in the Operating System and they “could not” get a hold of me to authorize the reinstall - WHY did they wipe out my operating system in the first place? You’d think they’d want to really get a hold of me to authorize that and try to talk me into allowing them to back up my data for their “so very low” price of $89.

    As you stated it blue screened when they turned it on. They obviously did not wipe your Operating System. It merely had some sort of problems/coruption. If your CD-Rom was not working when you brought it in, but is now after re-installing windows (you mad eno mention of it NOT working now) then there was obviously problems with Windows in the first place, so seeing a blue screen would not be a suprise… it is already screwed up what do you expect?

    2. Why did they call me to tell me the computer is finished if it so obviously wasn’t??

    Accident I would assume, everyone makes em.

    3. And most importantly, who’s copy of Windows XP were they trying to install on my computer?

    They were probably not neccesarily trying to install Fred Dunkin’s Windows XP on your computer. It was a backup of Windows XP disc that they probably keep for their use but do not want to use the actual thing in customer’s computer because it is possible to have their disc scratched in a customer’s computer. Your laptop also has a CD-Key at the bottom if they wanted to install Windows they could use that or the restore CD’s that they keep logged in the back for certain models. OR they were going to try recovery console using Windows to possibly see if they could fix it that way.

    How do you think going to Dell will solve your problem? Their customer support can be absolutely horrid at times, not to mention trying to get something fixed. In-Home support from dell = contracted computer repair specialist *randomly* picked from your area.

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    To Joe Schmoe with an obviously fake name: no, it was the complete Windows package just as the CD said it was. They also told me they were reinstalling the operating system with that CD, so there you have it.

    To Eddie with the obviously fake email address and URL that I removed: you obviously have not read the whole post nor my followup comment on it.

    They did wipe my operating system, they basically said as much. When I took the computer in, there was nothing wrong with it other than the CD Rom not being recognized. The rest of the computer ran PERFECTLY. I had had no blue screens whatsoever with it. The only way the OS could have been wiped out was when they did it. The blue screen I saw was a Windows reinstall that was halfway through when the lid had been closed on it. It was the same blue screen I got later when I took the thing home and started it up to reinstall it myself.

    As previously stated, I did make mention of the CD rom again not working. Within a week of getting everything reinstalled, it quit again. I then found instructions on Microsoft… well, read my previous comment, will you?

    And as for Dell, I love Dell. I have a Dell desktop that when my motherboard died they sent a guy who was here three days in a week with different parts and pretty much replaced every part in that thing. No probems since and it was all free to me. Much better than anything Compaq or Best Buy ever did for me.

  10.  

    lol @ these comments. I wonder if it’s BestBuy employees responding. :p Any chance these 2 posters have ip addresses really close to each other?

    Even though I think Dell computers have one disadvantage of having everything shipped back and forth during problems, they do pay for shipping. Dell computers also have the lowest complaints reported compared to Compaq and any BestBuy transaction; no need to take a computer back most of the time in the first place. Whether or not they randomly employ outside people, Dell support is still rated higher than BestBuy customer support, and that of Compaq/HP.

    Apparently, people not only not read and listen carefuly in person [aka BestBuy], but online too [the above 2 posters].

  11.  

    69.132.34.226 for “Joe Schmoe” (cpe-069-132-034-226.carolina.res.rr.com) and 65.28.111.17 for “Eddie” (CPE-65-28-111-17.kc.res.rr.com).

    :-D

  12.  

    Yes, I am employed with the Geek Squad.
    Yes I have seen some horrible things happen to customer’s machines.
    Most of the time our precinct is called upon to clean up other store’s screwups. The Geek Squad I work at is staffed with some of the best technicians I have ever seen.

    I *must* stress this. Your experience at ANY Best Buy or Geek Squad Precicnt is ENTIRELY dependent on the store and the store’s management. There is little to no corporate oversight aside from setting budgets for labor and sales.

    I’m not trying to defend the organization as a whole, just my little corner of it.

    As for the Windows XP CD, We keep images of OEM restore CDs on our computer and burn them off as neccessary. The liscense on the bottom of your computer is all that is needed to reinstall windows and it is entirely legitimate.

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    I don’t see a problem with using a burned Windows XP CD, you can install from any media and still use the product key on the bottom of the laptop to register/activate the software. Have you ever had a good experience at any store? It sounds like you like to find something wrong with service anywhere you go, perhaps you are the problem.

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    Amazing how these comments come in two’s, isn’t it?

    To both Laranzu and John: Yes, I understand about the CD. I’ve understood that now for quite some time.

    To John: No, I am not the problem, no, I do not look for something wrong with service wherever I go. I am a pretty easy going person and actually often overlook the stupidity of service persons and the like. Such as in a recent podunk town in Indiana, I overlooked the fact that my tacos at the great and mighty Taco Bell all had the amount of cheese equivalent to the breakfast of a mouse. Yeah, I’m like that. I am often the doormat, I get pushed around. But of course, from reading one post about one day out of my life… how could you know that?

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    I made the mistake of applying for a position for Geek squad. I went and interviewed with the manager. He was more interested in how I dealt with the public, how I sold stuff then, how well I could fix computers. That told me a lot and was glad I never got a call back from them. They hire incompetent people to try to sell you stuff you do not need, and when it comes down to fixing the problem they are clueless. Instead I got hired by IBM, trust me IBM has problems too, but not as bad as Geek Squad to say the least. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to correct their shoddy work. At IBM and we did support for Geek Squad,(the computers they used for cash registers) even their managers were morons. Case in point, they had a machine down which they were going to reload it. I said I would call back in an hour. I called back in two to make sure the reload completed. The manager got on the phone and said its still doing the reload, my reply it’s been 2 hours it should be finished. He then noticed the hard drive light was frozen after I asked him to look at it. We sent a “REAL” tech to fix the computer. I work for my self now on the side from my regular tech job; I cannot tell you how many customers I have had, where I had to fix what the geek squad techs have broken. Also I have heard the in-store techs copy information off users PCs for their own use. Lastly anybody working for Geek squad should be ashamed of themselves because charging what they charge should be considered highway robbery.

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    I’m gonna address a few of the things here. First of all, as to the original post, there is no doubt that they screwed up. Your CDROM not showing up in my computer, but showing up with an exclamation point in Device Manager is a simple upper and lower filters issue. There are two registry keys which affect this, you delete them and reboot and it works again. Two things can cause the problem: malware and defective cd burning software.

    To the IBM guy: of course Best Buy’s managers are idiots. There are no Geek Squad managers, only store managers whose experience is in retail. They don’t need to know how to fix a computer to do their jobs. Also, you say IBM sent a “real tech,” even if we wanted to fix the computers ourselves, our contract with IBM expressly forbids it and we would void our tech support options if we did anything we were unauthorized to do.

    Yes, we charge a lot, but you have a service which has a flat rate, so you know exactly how much it’s gonna cost up front, whether the work takes 2 hours or 10. Also, you have one of the largest retailers in the world backing it up. If you have a problem with the Geek Squad’s work, and the person you’re dealing with doesn’t want to help you, ask to speak with someone else. Most of us are far more concerned with ensuring that our clients are happy with our work than we are with extracting money out of them. Every precinct is generally a mix of folks who are fairly inexperienced and maybe good salesmen, and other folks who are true technicians and are more interested in fixing computers than dealing with everything else. Naturally it’s going to be luck of the draw when you talk to any particular person.

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    I hope you have your flame retardant suit on.

    If you read the fine print your almighty three year warranty doesn’t cover software issues. That Windows disc with black writing on it is just a service pack 2 UPGRADE disc they make copies of, not the full operating system. You are making it out they they load copied OS’s on machines. If you weren’t so one sided you would know that the disc is MEANINGLESS, it’s all tied to your product key on your machine. You are lucky they didn’t have to send it out for service or you would have waiting longer than two weeks to get it back, which they typically do. It’s a shame you felt you got bad service from Best Buy and decided to waste even more of youe time to complain about it. Like any other major corporation, there will be some customers that are disatisfied with their product or service.

  18. Fred Jacobs · (subscriber)
     

    I really hate to hear of your GeekSquad plight. I work for Geek Squad actually and believe me my frustrations are mirrored to yours. When we rolled out in 04 to all Best Buy stores everything was great. But overtime Best Buy has morphed us into their personal “selling” machines. I never offer a customer more than they need as that is not our motto (or at least mine). When I first started, all the techs were old school Best Buy Techs and knew their stuff. I was in the company of my peers and excited to come to work. Slowly things have changed, we have cowboy managers who pull us to the sales floor instead of fixing customer’s computers who have been waiting for a week. Anyway, I do my best to take care of my customer’s and ensure repeat business. As far as the CD-ROM issue goes, thats a well known problem and I could have taken care of you in about 15 minutes. What they did was wrong and very ineffecient, but seriously we are not in charge of the “techs” that Best Buy hirers. . . Best Buy makes all the decisions not Geek Squad, unfortunatly we are just along for the ride and a brand that is slowly withering away.

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    kellix - moron! of course the management was interested in how well you deal with the public as Geek Squad is a customer service based company. you can be capable of fixing a PC but horrible with people and be utterly worthless. I personally fixed cars for 9 years and left my career to go with Geek Squad full time. you hear so many complaints because you are looking for them - for one, and second - we are the largest computer support company in the world. WOrl domination was our motto - now its a reality - move over and watch as you may learn something.

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    You need to sit in the corner and cry somemore. Really. I have been reading through your “blogs” as i stubbed across this site through a friend. All you do is bitch and complain about stuff that you have NO idea about. If they were USING the cd-rom to reload your os OFF A CD then your problem IS with windows and not with your CD rom drive. Did that thought process ever cross your mind?
    And as for them reloading your os withOUT permisson, i will take your side, that is COMPLETELY uncalled for. They should have at least called and left a message or something before they did the work.
    But as for them being backed up all the time, i visited the local bestbuy a today and made a realization. They….are….busy. They have a HUGE volume of computers and customers to deal with. Mistakes are bound to happen. I saw this blog a few days ago and thought of it while i was there. i went us to the geek guys and asked them rougly about how many computers they had at the time. They have over 85 computers there to work on, though at first i did not believe him. I asked him to show me and, no joke, there back area was filled to the brim with computers and laptops. I can only geuss they try there best to finish computers as fast as possible but if they have to deal with whiny jerks like you all the time, then they might get slowed down

  21.  

    “Lastly anybody working for Geek squad should be ashamed of themselves because charging what they charge should be considered highway robbery.” pfft get over yourself will you. I have worked places that charge triple the Geek Squads price for a data back up. If you do not like the prices dont fucking shop there. How adult to have a website and whine about prices.

  22.  

    Dell…………Hahahahaha…………..Hahahahahaha……….. Thanks for the laugh. Now the questions they asked Kellix in the interview. 1) How well would you work with the public?…………Wouldn’t your customers be the public? How dare they ask such a question! 2) How well you can fix computers? Well, isn’t that what the job was for? Again, how dare they! I’m tired of hearing people whine about their experiences at retail establishments. If you don’t like them, DON’T SHOP THERE! I think it’s time to get down off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and GET OVER IT!

  23.  

    69.132.34.226 for “Joe Schmoe” (cpe-069-132-034-226.carolina.res.rr.com) and 65.28.111.17 for “Eddie” (CPE-65-28-111-17.kc.res.rr.com).

    Those IP addresses are in different parts of the country. Both appear to be Roadrunner related. So is my IP address. Settle down. There’s no conspiracy in the fact that a few people actually subscribe to Roadrunner as their ISP. The name may be a pseudonym as Best Buy, like any large retail entity, doesn’t authorize employees to talk about company issues. Dell, IBM, and any other retailer would be the same way. So.. I am NOT a spokesperson for Best Buy/ GeekSquad, and yes, I will disguise my real name. Big deal. Were you pissed that Deepthroat didn’t reveal his identity till recently?

    I’m sorry that you had a less-than-wonderful experience with BestBuy and GeekSquad, but as another poster pointed out, it greatly varies from location to location / management to management. That’s not an excuse, it’s just a fact. Dell will not always be the solution to your problems. Yes I do work for Geeksquad. We service Dell computers on a daily basis (at least 2/day and sometimes 5/day.) Usually we’re working on them because the customer felt abandoned by Dell (especially once the warranty went out) or it’s a software issue like spyware that Dell won’t help them with unless they format (wipe out) the computer & reinstall. At least GeekSquad (on the whole) is willing to try to FIX your operating system.

    No reseller guarantees the performance of the software/os on the systems they sell. There’s NO WAY to provide free software support in place of the OEM maker without charging for said support.

    It’s kind of like going to the grocery store, buying a steak, and being mad because it didn’t taste the way you wanted it to when you cooked it. The grocery store only has control over the quality of the raw material (the steak), not the way you cooked it (use it.)

    Best Buy’s steaks and Dell’s steaks are not of significantly different quality. The difference is that you have to call Dell for support, whereas you can at least talk to someone face to face at Best Buy; and Best Buy didn’t make the package the steaks, whereas Dell did.

    Dell hardware is nothing special. It’s not bad. It’s not great. It’s a Dell. The cases on the entry level Dells fall apart easily. Dell has even told a customer of mine that their hard drives are special and that only a Dell HD will work in a Dell. Anyone with any technical expertise will recognize this simply as a ploy to sell an overpriced generic hard drive from the Dell parts center.

    Ever since Dell started to compete with lower priced computer makers and tried to grab the lion’s share of the computer market, their customer satisfaction and service has dropped dramatically:

    http://www.forbes.com/2005/08/16/dell-customersatisfaction-falls-cx_ld_0816dell.html
    Quote “Dell’s customer satisfaction now merely meets overall customer satisfaction with the PC industry.”
    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1848939,00.asp

    Sure. Get a Dell. Nothing wrong with it, but you’ll have to be up for phone support when a problem arises, and be prepared for a format/reinstall if it is a software issue.

    I made the mistake of applying for a position for Geek squad. I went and interviewed with the manager. He was more interested in how I dealt with the public, how I sold stuff then, how well I could fix computers. That told me a lot and was glad I never got a call back from them. They hire incompetent people to try to sell you stuff you do not need, and when it comes down to fixing the problem they are clueless. Instead I got hired by IBM, trust me IBM has problems too, but not as bad as Geek Squad to say the least. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to correct their shoddy work. At IBM and we did support for Geek Squad,(the computers they used for cash registers) even their managers were morons. Case in point, they had a machine down which they were going to reload it. I said I would call back in an hour. I called back in two to make sure the reload completed. The manager got on the phone and said its still doing the reload, my reply it’s been 2 hours it should be finished. He then noticed the hard drive light was frozen after I asked him to look at it. We sent a “REAL” tech to fix the computer. I work for my self now on the side from my regular tech job; I cannot tell you how many customers I have had, where I had to fix what the geek squad techs have broken. Also I have heard the in-store techs copy information off users PCs for their own use. Lastly anybody working for Geek squad should be ashamed of themselves because charging what they charge should be considered highway robbery.

    Who get’s turned down by a company and still thinks highly of said company? Sorry you’re ego got hurt Kellix. Yes, Best Buy is a retail business. That surprises you? Lets say you’ve got 5 techs on duty at about $10/ hr each for a full 12 hours. Those techs have to pull in $600 a day just to break even (and that’s not paying any other bills.) What’s a good retail profit? 3X mark up? $1800/day? Pretty reasonable in a retail environment…. In order for Best Buy to provide a tech service at a brick and mortar store, that service HAS to make money. Otherwise you’re back to 5 hours on the phone with some guy in India.

    Managers are morons? In other words someone who doesn’t understand computers is a moron. Nice… probably why you didn’t get hired. You’re a great tech I’m sure, but BBY can’t afford to take that attitude with it’s customers.

    Techs who work for themselves are I’m sure quite skilled, but they rarely have access to legitimate licensed software to do the job they’re asked to do. I can’t count the number of times customers have come to the window with work done by “some tech guy… who charged them $$ to fix their computer” “oh yeah… he upgraded me with something” usually a pirated operating system that completely hoses the customer in the long run. Or they bring us their computer because some fly-by night tech/computer store that messed up their computer and is no longer in business or won’t answer their calls. See… nasty rumors work both ways…. Not nice is it?

    I’m just posting to say my peace. I’m not expecting to change any minds. It’s plain that yours is already made up, and that’s OK. Sorry you had a bad experience…

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    YOU ARE A FRIGG’N IDIOT. THATS ALL I CAN SAY. READ YOUR DAMN WARRANTY IT DOESNT COVER SOFTWARE THATS WHY THEY WOULDNT FIX YOUR OTHER COMPUTER DIP****. YOU ARE ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE IMPATIENT ***WIPES THAT WANT EVERYTHING DONE WHEN YOU WANT IT.

    KELLKIX IS HATE’N THE SQUAD CAUSE HIS DUMB*** CANT GET HIRED. HE PROBABLY OWNS A DELL TOO.

  25.  

    For the record though, if a computer comes in missing the CDRom, yeah… broken upper & lower filters in the registry is the first thing one should suspect. Checking/fixing that takes all of 3 minutes w/o interruptions (maybe 30 w/ typical interruptions.) (Technically this IS something wrong with the operating system and technically falls under flat rate charges for fixing the OS.) It’s like book time when you have your auto serviced. It might take the mechanic 1/2 book time to fix your paricular automotive issue -if they’re good- but they still get paid book time.

    Remember, neither BestBuy nor Geeksquad broke the registry. Also, this is an issue common to WindowsXP, not a particular computer brand. It DOES suck that your computer ended up worse than when you brought it in. I know many GS agents that would have tried editing the registry as a quick fix (after a disclaimer was signed) and then hand it back gratis if the worked though. If the registry issue was all that was wrong I’d be really mad at the final BSOD outcome too. I’d definitly be upset with the lack of communication at the very least. I would be remiss to assume that your computer did/or did not have further issues though.

  26.  

    To start off, I once worked at Bestbuy. First selling computers, and then I was moved to the tech department. I eventually quit after having gotten sick of being constantly told to provide great customer service and then not being given enough time to do that. But, what did the most to push me over the edge was customers. Not all of them, just most of them. There are a majority of people in this world who have learned that if you complain enough, you will get something for free. People were referring their friends to come to me at Bestbuy if they needed to buy a computer. When I moved to the Tech bench, I took the same attitude and knowledge. Suddenly, I had people yelling at me over things they broke (cracked screen on a dropped notebook,…) because they thought if they complained enough they could get something for free. Now, to get to my point. Bestbuy, Circuit City, CompUSA (well maybe not CompUSA),… all used to try and take care of their customers. The problem, customers were always trying to get something for free. So, all these retailers had to change thier policies to become profitable. Once Bestbuy did this, that is when they started to expand nation wide. Do I like this or agree with it, NO. That’s just how it is. In this respect, customers did this to themselves. These major retailers now sell things like service plans because if you don’t have one it is easier to tell you there is nothing they can do.
    I would much prefer that service plans don’t exist. You should be able to pay more to get a better item that will last instead of having to buy added insurance on a crappy one. But then again, consumers are to blame for this also. In retail, cheap will always beat out quality. So, for any manufacturer to compete they have to make their items as cheap as possible. Which leaves consumers with who are willing to spend more for a quality item having no choice but to buy a cheap one with an added service plan/ extended warranty. (The only company I have dealt with that makes good quality inexpensively is Samsung. Conversly if you want a good high quality name brand item, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you ever buy Sony [but that's a different story, I still have nightmares about being drown in broken PS2's not to mention camcorders, cd players, computers, IT IS ALL CRAP as far as reliability is concerned. Thier stereos are mediocre])
    To try and tie this back to the issue at hand. It seems you failed to notice TWICE that the service plan only covers HARDWARE, NOT SOFTWARE (and for anyone else, it DOES NOT COVER ABUSE, so if you drop it and it breaks, you screwed yourself). This does not mean that I think Bestbuy was not responsible for helping you. In response to your first computer, it was a software issue. Compaq tech support was responsible for that. Second time was a software issue also, same thing. Bestbuy WAS RESPONSIBLE for verifying that it was a software issue and not a hardware issue in both cases. THERE, THEY FAILED! Both times.
    So, in the end, I am not entirely sympathetic to you problem, because we as consumers brought it on ourselves. Any company that would provide good customer service without trying to take us (the customers) for every penny, will go out of business.
    Oh, and in reference to Dell, the last consumer report I read, Dell was ranked 5th in customer support and reliability. The used to be cheap of the cheap E-Machines was ranked #1 in CUSTOMER SUPPORT & RELIABILTY.
    P.S. all service orgainization have their problems. This is for the guy who worked at IBM. After a tech repair, my external scsi tape backup on my server still does not work correctly and after $50,000 for a server plus maintenance contract, I expected more!!

  27.  

    well.. to start with COPYING windows CD is NOT illegal.. what IS illegal is using WinXP serial key on several machines when it is authorised for only one….

    creator’s taste for colours sucks…

    and at the end…..
    every company can have a problem…if moron comes in and is having a problem with 1-2 computers out of overall 1000 serviced i’d say its a pretty cool service center.

    people like that i just want to smack.. with a baseball bat..

  28.  

    To the last 12 commenters:

    I really don’t have to defend myself or my opinions to you, this is my website, afterall. 90% of you are lucky to even have had your comments approved and out of moderation. I appreciate thought-out and polite comments and opinions, but most of you have just seen fit to show your lack of intelligence by using profanity and attempting to insult me. What is that going to do? Do you think this hurts my feelings? Do you think your measly insults will make me take this site or post down? What, are you afraid of losing your job should word get out that your company isn’t all they’re cracked up to be?

    Let me attempt to make a few things even clearer here. (However, if you had all actually read the post thoroughly as well as previous comments, you would already be privy to this.)

    1. I know about the operating system CD. I did not at the time I wrote the post which was why it was posed in question form. I understand this. Big deal. It wasn’t the main issue anyway.

    2. Yes, I know the problem was a software issue, and I know that software issues are not covered under warranty. I did not know at the time I took the computer in that it was a software issue. I did not take a lot of time and try to solve the problem myself at first because it had all appearances of being a hardware issue and the computer is under warranty so why not take it in? C’mon, people, again, if you had actually read everything you would already know this.

    3. All Geek Squad had to do was tell me it was a software issue and what to do and we could have been happy. But, no! What I was really angry about was this:

    a. Being told the job was completed when in reality nothing was completed as the issue remained and the operating system was gone.
    b. Their wiping out of my operating system without prior authorization and then wanting to charge me for reinstalling it.
    c. The fact that I was flat out lied to when I was told they “tried to authorize it but the phone number you gave us was bad.” Riiiighto, Matey. And it was just as bad when they called to say the computer was ready.

    4. I never said Dell was anything special. Just letting the world know that they’re the only ones who have ever given me any support that was actually worth anything instead of pushing me off on someone else or denying it was their problem, or making it worse, etc.

    Moving along…

    Specifically to “os god.” You are no god. You have no idea what you’re even talking about. I was told they wiped the operating system and were installing it with that CD, that means, gasp, that that CD contained the operating system. I don’t “make anything out.” I just tell it like it is. As far as “flames” go, well… I’m not afraid of fire.

    To “YuP.” I am laughing so hard now. That’s hilarious, world domination, huh? Like Pinky & the Brain? Why don’t you take note? You’re just a fad.

    To “Jon” and anyone else who claims to have been brought here “by a friend.” And that would be why I have over 254 hits for February from geeksquadforums.com, that would be why your IP address matches one of those hits. Right. Do you actually see me crying? No, you don’t. Why? Because I fixed the problem myself. My computer runs great, no thanks to you. The rest of your comment is just so ridiculous it doesn’t deserve any more attention.

    To “Wow” – you attempt to insult me and my website using something someone else said. How “adult” of you. And the language you use, your mother must be ashamed of you. How about you grow up and learn to use the English language to your advantage?

    To “Dan” and “Five Fingers.” Wow, you’re just not even worth it.

    To “Foques.” Do you really have nothing better to say? Please, the guy visiting from 198.22.123.103, otherwise known as Best Buy Co., Inc. in Richfield, MN ought to have something more profound than that. Does your manager know what you do with the company computers? Or are you the manager? Too big of a baby to come up with something worth any value? Or maybe you smacked yourself with that baseball bat instead?

    To the rest of you recent commenters: thank you for your comments that are mostly thought out and polite. Though I still either disagree with you or again you have not fully read what was already written and are beating a dead horse. Also, to those who made reference to my first computer’s problems – I never did tell you what the issue was, did I? So how could you know if it was software or hardware?

    Finally, I am not wasting my time complaining about anything. This is a blog site. An outlet of free time. This Geek Squad thread only makes up about .01% of what is on this site. I can say whatever I please here, whenever. If you don’t like it, go somewhere else.

    But keep it coming, boys. Because the more you whine about one person’s opinion on the internet, the more popular my site gets and the more Google adores me. For that, I thank you.

  29.  

    Wow I must have really struck a cord with the Best Buy morons. Let’s get to some answers, to the jerk about the service agreement, IBM will let people that are competent, read the word “competent” to work on the computers if they have the skill to do so if IBM help desk allows. Since 90% are not we do not usually allow it but read the agreement. I have read Geek Squads agreement between IBM have you? Also if they are a Geek Squad manager not a BEST BUY manager you’re saying they shouldn’t know crap about what to tell their employees? Also to the moron about, customer service, I won 14 customer service awards with IBM, I think I know how to do it; Geek squad is too worried about selling then fixing. Also I pray to God I didn’t get hired by Geek Squad, I have a tech job where I make a tons better living then even the highest Geek Squad manager. Lastly to the ex-car salesman or ex con-artist what car salesman are, go ahead and tell you how great they are. Most people after experiencing Geek Squad NEVER go back. So you might be No.1 today. It’s going to change in time. So con artists and incompetent morons keep breaking PCs, you keep me in business fixing your work. I sleep well at night I bet you don’t.

  30.  

    Amazing how these “Geeks” have nothing better to do with their time. Do they not know that by showing their lack of intelligence they are proving your point about the GS even more? Wise up little boys, detach yourself from mommy and GROW UP.

  31.  

    too funny - facts are facts - Geek Suqad is the largest computer support group. Google it, get your info right, and know your facts. As for fear? ok buddy, whatever you say. The only thing I have to fear is fear itself - and that is nothing more than a word! Everyone is entitled to their opinion - problem is only few can take constructive criticsm maturely or present their opinion in a professional manner. Enjoy life, its to short to cry about your shopping experience at a retailer when there are so many others to shop with. No more responses, this is a dead post and topic.

  32.  

    While you are spelling out your hatred, perhaps you could learn how to spell “refrigerator”. Here’s a link to help start you down the right path:

    http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/refrigerator

  33.  

    To wow (and a few others). Let me ask you a question - If you went to your local Auto mechanic and asked him to bring his lift, tools and talent to your driveway to work on your car; what would he charge you?

    Geek Squad comes TO YOUR HOUSE or are there AT THE STORE and you ‘only’ get charged for any parts that may be needed and a ‘flat rate’ for services. Have you been charged for thier time (ever).

    Yes I work for the Geek Squad, and like some of the other posters to this blog I am sorry for the trpoubles and woes you have experienced at the hands of a few within BestBuy. We are a brand, and most of us hold the brand to high standards.

    I will (and have) go out of my way to give the best possible service and experience to my customers I can provide, regardless of the hours I spend.

  34.  

    Goodknight… Goodnight. You’ve NEVER made a typo before? Grow up.

  35.  

    First to Val: You definitely had a bad experience. I admire your spunk with regards do some of your replies to some of the impolite responses posted here. You crack me up! I of course take some issue with the blanket statement that GS/BBY/CPQ sucks, but you are legitimately posting about something that happened to you. I hate to see one person’s bad experience at on particular store make us all look bad. The problem is that it brings both sides out of the woodwork, and unfortunately sometimes in nasty way.

    An example of the other side: Kellix.

    Kellix. A BBY manager you were working with didn’t know how to do something computer related so you call him a moron here. I point out that attitude is incongruous with good customer service and you call me a moron. You pretty much SLANDER Best Buy, Geek Squad an everyone associated with them in a blanket fashion and then point out that you’ve won 14 customer service awards. I don’t think I need say much more. You reveal yourself quite effectively. As Val said about most of the posters… keep it coming. I say the same to you. The more you write the more you show who you are. I need say nothing, except you might want to have a friend proof read your post before submission. We all make gramatical errors but your sentence structure makes your post a bit difficult to read.

  36.  

    Val… I just found it humourous. Ironic, really, that “spell” and a typo were in the same line. Get a sense of humour.

  37.  

    Goodknight….get a LIFE. Seriously, you must be a lonely pathetic person to comment about a TYPO. Can we all say loser? Sheesh.

  38. Love it or Hate it
     

    You seem to have a pretty had opinion about Services. I understand the pain and hardship you went through, but you blame the whole rather than the site where you took the unit.

    As for anything else, suck it up. Talk it up with another Geek Squad and move on.

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    Another coward who can’t leave a real name or email, aye?

    You’ll notice that this post was originally made in 2005. I have quite moved on. It seems, however, that it’s the Geek Squad employees that can’t move on.

    You know, since you’re visiting from the same Best Buy store as “Foques” above, I assume you’re an employee as well, 198.22.123.105 through Best Buy Co., Inc. from Richfield, MN. Not that I enjoy repeating myself but, “Do you really have nothing better to say? Does your manager know what you do with the company computers?”

  40. Merlyn · (subscriber)
     

    Don’t care to finish reading these posts, all I can say is cry more. Your computer was broken, you took it to a place to get fixed. Just because ONLY your CD-ROM drive was not functioning does not mean that it could have been fixed without removing your OS. But oh wait, yes it could have, it would have taken weeks to go through and find exactly what was missing from that of a standard Windows XP Install. About the “written in black ink”. We (I work for Best Buy) are licensed the use of Windows XP CD’s, however we are not given CD-Keys to go along with them, we have them because people don’t bring us their CDs. Long story short, when you sit there and complain about them taking too long, then you contradict yourself by making fun of a copied CD, maybe you would think in your head, “maybe these CDs are copied so more computers can be worked on at one time”. I see people like you come and go, day after day, if you hate Geek Squad and Best Buy so much, leave, don’t come back. Fix it yourself. Computers are a pain in the ass, I have worked on them for years now, and still to this day, this happen that I can not solve in 5 minutes. Yes, they should not have called you when the computer was not ready, and yes they should have tested the computer to double check before they did call you. Yes, I will admit there are flaws in the way ANY computer tech shop works, but when you sit here, obviously much older then I, and complain about simple things, it makes me regret ever getting into the retail buisness. There is no way to make you happy. You WOULD have had to pay $60 more to have XP installed, since that is Geek Squad procedure, yet you didn’t because no call was made. They made a mistake you gained from it. I don’t see you complaining about not having to pay $60. “Well, they made a mistake I want to pay my $60″ BUT, when a mistake is made out of your favor, you cry about it. Nothing personal to you, I just had to vent because everyday I see people like you come into my store and you all wonder why we don’t want to help you, because you all bitch and moan about this and that… FYI, in retail when you sit there and complain you more then likely will NOT recieve all that you want. I talk to my managers when I get customers like you and I tell them how you are acting and tell them I do not wish to help you. Last point, it is Christmas time when you brought this computer in, what do you expect, biggest shopping months of the year. I am done venting.

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    First of all, your comment is the hardest piece of crap I’ve ever had the pleasure of reading. So let’s take it piece by piece, shall we? You know, especially since you don’t care to read enough in the first place to know that I have already addressed everything and that you are not bringing anything new to the table… just beating a dead horse, as you would have it.

    Don’t care to finish reading these posts, all I can say is cry more.

    Who’s crying? It’s your “not caring” that has made you look like a complete moron, beating that dead horse. Next time won’t you try to finish reading what others have said so that you can save yourself some dignity?

    Your computer was broken, you took it to a place to get fixed.

    Read that again. The computer was not broken, only the CD rom was not functioning.

    Just because ONLY your CD-ROM drive was not functioning does not mean that it could have been fixed without removing your OS.

    Who ever said that was the case?

    But oh wait, yes it could have, it would have taken weeks to go through and find exactly what was missing from that of a standard Windows XP Install.

    Yeah, that’s why it took me all of five minutes once I found the error code when it happened the second time. A Geek Squad employee should have known right off where to find the error code and have solved it in a matter of minutes.

    About the “written in black ink”. We (I work for Best Buy) are licensed the use of Windows XP CD’s, however we are not given CD-Keys to go along with them, we have them because people don’t bring us their CDs.

    Blah blah blah blah, we already know this.

    Long story short, when you sit there and complain about them taking too long, then you contradict yourself by making fun of a copied CD, maybe you would think in your head, “maybe these CDs are copied so more computers can be worked on at one time”.

    No one’s making fun. I was having a serious conversation. I had a concern. I know now the issue, as you could have seen if you’d actually read everything.

    I see people like you come and go, day after day, if you hate Geek Squad and Best Buy so much, leave, don’t come back. Fix it yourself.

    People like me? You don’t know me. You don’t know what I’m like. You have read one post about my experience with a bad Geek Squad store and you use that to make judgement on what I am like as a person? Grow up. I am secure in the knowledge that I am a polite, honest, and hard-working person. One bad experience at the fault of others does not make me a bad person.
    Note that I have fixed the problem myself, twice! I don’t plan on going back except should I need for them to fulfill the extended warranty that I paid for.

    Computers are a pain in the ass, I have worked on them for years now, and still to this day, this happen that I can not solve in 5 minutes. Yes, they should not have called you when the computer was not ready, and yes they should have tested the computer to double check before they did call you.

    Tell me something I don’t already know. Of course they should have checked on things before calling me, blah blah blah. If you haven’t noticed, that was about 90% of my point with the original post.

    Yes, I will admit there are flaws in the way ANY computer tech shop works, but when you sit here, obviously much older then I, and complain about simple things, it makes me regret ever getting into the retail buisness.

    How old do you think I am? I am 24, I doubt I’m “much older” than you. Not that that would be an issue to begin with. And again, you must be pretty insecure if reading one blog post from one website about one experience of one person out of all the places and people in the world makes you regret getting into retail. C’mon.

    There is no way to make you happy.

    There are plenty of ways to make me happy. I take stock in the simple things. LIKE GOOD SERVICE. Once again, we’re back to the issue of you not knowing me.

    You WOULD have had to pay $60 more to have XP installed, since that is Geek Squad procedure, yet you didn’t because no call was made. They made a mistake you gained from it. I don’t see you complaining about not having to pay $60. “Well, they made a mistake I want to pay my $60″ BUT, when a mistake is made out of your favor, you cry about it.

    That doesn’t even make any sense. No, I would not have paid for the operating system to be installed not only because they didn’t call me but had they, I still wouldn’t have paid it because I can *gasp* do that myself. Why pay someone else to do something that I can do quickly and easily in the comfort of my own home? Especially when that would have meant leaving the computer at the store for another period of-who-knows-how-long and then making another two hour round trip to pick it up at a later date. So logically, I would not be complaining about not having to pay $60 in the first place because I would have never had them reinstall it in the first place. So, no, I did not gain from their mistakes. Not one bit. And, again, I’m not crying about anything.

    Nothing personal to you,

    Really? Because it sure seems personal, the way all the Geek Squad and Best Buy employees are coming here to attack me - try to tell me that I’m a person who’s never happy, or I’m a bitch, or I’m stupid - all without really looking at the facts. Yes, I know who’s linking to me, I know where you people are coming from to this site. For instance, I know that you searched Google for “Geek Squad cd” and came from there where I am currently listed on page 1, site 3. Not that I take it personal, of course, really I laugh every time a new comment on this post comes through because you guys just continue to make yourselves look bad. In fact, the more you discuss it, the higher I move on the search engines with this post and the more people that come here and decide not to give you their business.

    I just had to vent because everyday I see people like you come into my store and you all wonder why we don’t want to help you, because you all bitch and moan about this and that…

    Back to the not knowing me. I find it extremely interesting how this keeps coming up with you. You have no real facts or defense so you feel you must attack me as a person. Interesting.

    FYI, in retail when you sit there and complain you more then likely will NOT recieve all that you want.

    Um, okay. Who ever said that I sat there and complained? I never did. I was up front with the guy, I spoke plainly as to what I needed done and I voiced my concerns about why I was called to pick up a computer that was so obviously not ready. No one also seems to care that I was obviously lied to when they tried to tell me I gave them a bad phone number (which was crap because - hello - they called to say it was ready, didn’t they?). And through it all, I really did remain polite. It’s my way. I believe in treating others as I would like to be treated. Though above I say that I was ticked off, I never once raised my voice, never got nasty, never did anything you all seem to assume I did.

    I talk to my managers when I get customers like you and I tell them how you are acting and tell them I do not wish to help you.

    How professional of you. You know, I worked in retail back in the day. I had the ability to calm down irate customers quickly and make them happy. I know what it’s like to work in retail as well as other types of business and whenever I’m at a fast food place that’s slow or gets my order wrong, I’m still nice. Do you see where I’m going with this? I treat others as I wish to be treated. I remember what it was like being there. I don’t yell at people or get nasty or slam things around, I don’t even threaten.

    You should really take some notes. Helping the unhelpable may be one of the greatest traits a person can have. And as you continue to pass judgement on me, a person you’ve never met, I guess I can do the same to you - you seem like a very fickle and spoiled person. Try helping that unhelpable person - when you’ve finished, you just might feel like you’ve accomplished something.

    Last point, it is Christmas time when you brought this computer in, what do you expect, biggest shopping months of the year.

    So what? Because it’s Christmastime I should expect horrible service and faulty repair?

    I am done venting.

    Go ahead, vent all you want. It’s quite funny. Just next time, try some paragraphing and cognitive thought.

  42.  

    Boy..these Best Buy people just keep on making themselves look like idiots. Is that a requirement when applying? “Can you go to someone’s website you don’t know and make our company look bad with your stupid comments?” “Yes?” “Ok, you’re hired!”

    If you hate customers and reatil so bad then HELLO! GET A NEW JOB!

  43.  

    I am sure corporate would absolutely lovvvvvvve to see how their lackeys represent them when out of the store/warehouse. I for one, have never seen such true devotion from underpaid retail clerks, ever. Wow!

    I’ve never used Best Buy for anything technical (I find them poorly stocked with overpriced, lower-end product), but after seeing the behaviour of these “company representatives,” I’ll keep my business flowing to those who know the business–not just how to wrangle more fees out of their customers. This coming from a business owner who spends more on electronics in one trip, than these guys make in a year, possibly two. (Do you want fries with that?)

    In my experience, this is usually indicative of the inmates running the asylum (i.e.: the retail crew running their own private operations out of the back door). Thou doth protest too much… nobody making that kind of money would get their undies in a knot over a customer who has been this consistently scammed and baited.

    I’m just sayin’! ;)

  44. Merlyn · (subscriber)
     

    I personally enjoy my job, I enjoy the people I work with, and have helped customer after customer with their problems. I have been yelled at for 10 minutes and still helped that customer, When I can.

    I made that post at 1 AM, and I will admit it seemed a bit targetted to you. In all honesty it wasn’t, it was me venting, as I would have either done on my own personal site, or to a friend. So first off, would like to apologize to you. You had a bad experience at Best Buy, thats fine, where I got upset, is when I started to think back to the other customers who have had a bad experience and to me, it set something off, so I do apologize.

    About making us look bad. I personally do not work at Geek Squad, I just have friends who do and I work very close to them. I have helped customers time and time again, helping them fix problems that were unfixable. I would have been that Computer Salesman that if you went up to and asked, “Hey I think this is a simple problem, I can’t get my CD-Rom drive to be found”. I would have helped you and probably done the work on the sales floor if we were slow. That is if it was as easy as you said, finding a Microsoft post about the problem.

    I joined retail to help people, that is what I do. It is just those customers I get that just make me think, why am I putting myself through a stressful job when I could be doing more. I then help them and a few other nice customers, learn about their life and strike fun converstation, and I feel better, I enjoy my job again.

    Long story short, I made this reply not to change anyones opinions on my first post but to apologize for the manner in which it was posted. Aside from that, if customers are going to read one situation where a customer was unhappy and decide not to go back to that store, I guess every buisness in existance shall fall. There is not a store out there that has given 100% customer satisfaction, atleast none that I have found. Aside from that have a good day, and am glad your computer works. I can recommend 2 stores for you to visit next time for a computer. Circuit City, have fun finding someone who knows anything, or is will to go out of their way to make you feel welcome at the store (saying this as I do everything listed to all of my customers, even those that are angry, I go to my manager when they want a discount for no reason), or 2. Compusa, I however have never found a single person to help me in that store before in my life. So, try those stores and maybe you will come back to Best Buy, or maybe you shall have that once in a lifetime experience with the workers there.

  45. wildumut · (subscriber)
     

    Wow. What a great set of posts, it’s the best blog I’ve read so far on Geek Squad BB/ Customer Service issues. (I started a few hours today) But I didn’t really read much about Comcrap.

    I can imagine from the author’s point of view, why she was frustrated. She had good reason to be. She had a computer issue. She took it to a brick and mortar business where she was lied to, multiple times, first when she was told that the machine was fixed, then that they didn’t have her number. Then they went ahead an unsuccessfuly reinstalled her os without even asking for permission. In the end, after wasting her time, she was almost back to where she started. Anyone who would just look at those facts alone would dismiss that that was a horrible experience, and probably a horrible place to do business with.

    Now the fact that it is Best Buy / Geek Squad is probably the only reason there’s so much flaming going on. Because people who belong to that organization are getting insulted. Pride is the issue here.

    Alot of people from BB / GS have claimed that not all GS’s are the same, while evidently true, it’s not to say that customers don’t and shouldn’t expect them to be. We’re in a franchised USA where we expect to have the dunkachino in one dunkin donuts in nj taste just like the dunkachino in a dunkin donuts in ca. If you can’t raise your level of quality to meet the needs of your customers, and someone else can, you will lose business. Frankly, it’s funny that the end user kept going back to BB, perhaps this can be an opportunity for a local computer shop? Where do you live again?

    I can’t agree with her assumption that her computer was clean. I’ve worked with computers long enough (15 years) to know what I can’t know. One thing is that a system is clean. It’s entirely possible that spyware or viri could have caused the issue, and it’s entirely true that it was a software issue. The only time you can know for SURE if a system is clean is to start with a new or wiped drive and reinstall the os off of clean disks.

    I also don’t think it was an easy thing to fix, at least, I didn’t know how to fix it off the top of my head. I found interesting points made here by rather knowledgeable techs about the upper and lower filters, thank you! I love learning more about computers, that was not one I knew about. I would have suggested booting off of a system disk to test the cd though, if that works, we know the drive works to some degree, so the software should be to blame, that’s something you can do in just a few minutes.

    However, what the techs suggested, about reinstalling the os, even though it wasn’t the most elegant way to fix the issue, it would have worked, and eventually, it did, since it was something the end user ended up doing.

    I wasn’t clear on whether or not she was charged anything in the first place, or whether it was a warranty job, if she didn’t pay anything for the service, than you can say that at least she got some free consulting out of it (and a very interesting blog)Good job to all of those involved, it’s been fun!

    **
    Here’s something I’m going to post that I tried to post somewhere else and failed:Geek Squad does charge certain things by the hour, for example, training. It costs $159 / for one hour or $229 / for two hours, you can find these rates on the site. So really, that’s their hourly rate, if you were to compare them, which by industry standards, even in MANHATTAN that would be considered high. Sure, they do most of the services by the “job”, but charging 159 dollars for installing a $35 cd burner onto your system (it would take an *average tech* 15 mins) is in my opinion, a greedy way to make money.(159 bucks for 15 minutes(do the math), whores can’t even do that in manhattan, and that’s the oldest business in the world!) Charging hourly is much more substantial, however, GS and any other company will agree, not every tech is the same, therefore that’s why they can’t charge by the hour, what a good seasoned tech could do in less than an hour a newbie might take 3 hours to do(or never do), therefore, they’re quietly admitting their weakness and solving a problem at the same time, flat rates = less problems and more money. So, yes, they’re in it for the money, and not necessarily your satisfaction, they are not striving to be great, just effective in selling overpriced tech help in an underserved market. I can’t wait for them to get some competition. Until then, rape away, GS.
    **

  46. Agent Todd · (subscriber)
     

    just wanted to explain the “burned copy” of windows xp in the origional post. this is a copy of windows…. with all legal versions of windows xp on one cd. using file tables made through linux, since most windows systems use the same files depending which OS you want, the software installs this using the same system files everytime. then i, as a GS employee, use the origional key from the customer’s computer. if there is not a key on the side, or bottom, of the unit, we will contact the customer before proceding.

    which brings me to “why the HD was formated and OS reinstalled”……..
    YOU HAD A HUGE DUMBASS WORKING ON YOUR COMP.!!!!!!
    i would have made up some type of bull shit about you had important company docs on your machine and now that their gone, you may lose your job…… Best Buy woul be so scared of a lawsuit, they would have given you complete financial coverage.

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    F.I.N.A.L.L.Y. finished reading all the posts. I gotta agree with Agent Todd you had a REAL DUMBASS working on your P.C. I believe it’s been posted numerous times but the first thing anyone shoud have checked would be registry. And if they did start messing around in there they should have definately backed up the reg.

    Now as far as the Couter Monkeys reformatting your O.S. without your consent this is why it’s important to read what you sign. BUT I do know that they will call before doing something that drastic…for a CD ROM issue you have every right to be pissed I would. It just sound like you have had a bad experience with Geek Squad.

    Geek Squad is franchised with over 3000-4000 Agents who do INHOME service (I am not sure how many they have working in stores) but that being said ther are bound to be issues but most of the issues come down to COMMUNICATION. Usually related to the Agent not providing the customer with a clear enough explanation of what is happening and what their options are.

    Geek Squad does have good quality techs out there but most of them work in the home not in the store. Yes there are bad Agents as there are bad mechanics, bad doctors, etc.

    FOR ALL THE PRICE PEOPLE: Geek Squad isn’t for everyone. And yes as a company we know our prices aren’t cheap. But you have to realize that being said you shouldn’t have used us if you can’t afford us. I have never had someone complain about our prices when I am in their home.

    Are we going away? In some markets maybe. But in large markets Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, New York. I seriously doubt it. In large markets most people are educated enough to fix their own problems on their PC’s but what are their biggest reasons for them using us? “Because my time is worth more than you fixing it for me” I have been into many businesses that have an IT staff that just needed more hands to get a project finished. Why because with flat rate pricing it’s cheaper than paying FIXIT Tech guy from the want ad.

    In short anyway we put with our rants and raves it all depends on your experience you have had. That being said I trust no one but myself when it comes to fixing anything or doing anything. I feel bad when I go to places and see someone taking a person for a “ride” with all the additional things they want you to do. THIS HAS been my ongoing battle with the way INSTORE Geek Squad works.

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    Goodness people, I spent 30 minutes reading over your stupid stories in regards to Geek Squad and Dell. I am all in favor of freedom of speech, but this whole blog should be shut down. You people need to do something better with your time than complain and track where ip address are coming from. All of you should be ashamed and hang your head. Go out and do something productive with your life. Oh, maybe your computers breaking is a sign of a user error. Learn how to use a computer, or take a class its not expensive. Better yet, if you still have the original box. Box it back up and ship it back to the manufacturer with a note stating,”I suck at life, and I don’t know anything about computers nor do I understand how to read warranties.”

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    The only one who should be ashamed and hang their head is YOU. How dare you come to someone’s blog, WHOM YOU DONT EVEN KNOW, and post such moronic crap? Go back to the planet ***hole from which you came and go f*** yourself. Kthnxbye.

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    WOW!!! Looks like I hit a spot with you. So defensive, this must mean its true. You people really are lower life forms. By the way calling me names is pointless, and proves my point.

    Thank you for being so weak minded, and enjoy your pathetic life.

  51.  

    Nothing proves your point. You are a lonely, pathetic man who has nothing better to do than talk down to people he doesn’t know. You are a weak minded waste of space.

  52.  

    PS - Of course you ‘hit a spot’. You come in here running your mouth over something you know NOTHING about and expect not to ‘hit a spot’? Grow up.

  53.  

    Hit a spot with me? I am the blog owner.

    Thanks, Christine, for the defense. However, I do think that John’s comments show his ignorance and stupidity all in their own. My allowing his comments to even be posted when I have to manually approve them should show in itself that I am the bigger person.

    I am not bothered by the comments or threats or the stupidity of these Geek Squad/Best Buy defenders. They’ll see the error of their ways soon enough.

  54.  

    Hmmm…. very interesting

  55.  

    I took my Toshiba laptop in to have the inverter (from what I understand, a piece of hardware that does something to the backlight display) replaced/fixed. Common problem on laptops. Well…I got it back and I have corrupt system files. The OS (WinXP) is unstable and crashes. It turns off by itself. My MS Office software was uninstalled.
    I’m so mad! The manager is currently “looking into it” and is supposed to call me back…riiiight. My computer worked FINE before I took it in, the only problem was the inverter. What the he– did they do to my computer?!?!?!?!?!

  56.  

    well for starters they did nothing - your laptop was repaired by a service center that the manufacturer agrees to use. as for the corrupt files - its amazing how you could no whats going on when the LCD displays nothing. It’s just like the lady that took her car for an oil change and her transmission failed a week later. Funny how everyone points the finger at the place of repair wrather than looking in the mirror first. Most problems lie between the chair and the keyboard - YOU!

  57. Jen · (subscriber)
     

    YuP - But isn’t it a bit strange that my system stops working right after I take it into get serviced? Why would Office be uninstalled? Why would they tell me that I need Anti-Virus software when I already have it? Why doesn’t my computer even TURN ON anymore?!

    RE: LCD display. If you knew about the inverter issue on LCD displays (which apparently you don’t) you’d know that when the inverter needs to be repaired/replaced, the backlight on the display goes out - you can still faintly see the screen. And these problems (corrupt Sys. files, etc.) happened AFTER they fixed the inverter.

    As for your car analogy - there are plenty of stories of people taking their car in for an oil change and the mechanics screwing up other things

    ps-there’s no “w” in rather.

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    As for LCD displays - (which obviously you are the one that isnt aware of how it works) you can have a bad inverter and have absolutely no visible picture unless you plug a secondary monitor in. Fact is your complaint is half of the story, as usual. I’ve been working on cars and PC’s for a total of about 20 years, and the only fact that is evident here is that there is what you say was wrong with your PC and what was actually wrong with your PC.

    was my grammer to your approval this time…….

  59.  

    You know what? No one cares what you have to say. So move on.

  60. Jen · (subscriber)