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	<title>Comments on: another freaky website (aboutus.org)</title>
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		<title>By: FrankZ</title>
		<link>http://spoken-for.org/archives/2006/09/24/1687/comment-page-1/#comment-451079</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 15:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add me to the list of disgusted Web developers. I found out a while ago they had ripped copyright information and images from my site to put on their own. What really took the biscuit was the publishing of my private information. I gave permission to eNom to hold my personal details related to my domain names, but NOT AboutUs.org. To be sure these details should be protected I reread through eNom&#039;s terms and conditions which state:
&quot;The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of eNom&#039;s Whois information in its entirety, or a substantial portion thereof, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of eNom&quot;
I contacted eNom and asked if these scammers had been given written permission to use MY details, and if not could they contact them and inform them of their illegal activity. Sadly, eNom basically said there was nothing they could do - even though I pointed out it was against their own T&amp;C.
In the UK you have to have permission to hold someones personal information under the Data Protection Act. What a shame there isn&#039;t something similar in Washington, USA where AboutUs is hosted - or is there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add me to the list of disgusted Web developers. I found out a while ago they had ripped copyright information and images from my site to put on their own. What really took the biscuit was the publishing of my private information. I gave permission to eNom to hold my personal details related to my domain names, but NOT AboutUs.org. To be sure these details should be protected I reread through eNom&#8217;s terms and conditions which state:<br />
&#8220;The compilation, repackaging, dissemination or other use of eNom&#8217;s Whois information in its entirety, or a substantial portion thereof, is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of eNom&#8221;<br />
I contacted eNom and asked if these scammers had been given written permission to use MY details, and if not could they contact them and inform them of their illegal activity. Sadly, eNom basically said there was nothing they could do &#8211; even though I pointed out it was against their own T&amp;C.<br />
In the UK you have to have permission to hold someones personal information under the Data Protection Act. What a shame there isn&#8217;t something similar in Washington, USA where AboutUs is hosted &#8211; or is there?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://spoken-for.org/archives/2006/09/24/1687/comment-page-1/#comment-450987</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys and gals, there are some great points being made here. It&#039;s clear to see that there are MANY who would like to see aboutus.org banned from google, so here&#039;s my two cents...

Despite all the truly laugable spin being pushed by the naive brainwashed cult members that are the employees of aboutus.org it is perfectly clear to see what the site IS and what the site was always intended to be:

Essentially aboutus.org is there to automatically generate deceptive incoming google results using everyone else’s stolen content, domain names and keywords so as to MAKE MONEY from advertising. Nothing any more profound, clever or nobel than that.

Aboutus.org is simply SPAMMING &amp; PLAGIARISM on a more sophisticated and grand scale than anything seen before.

The idea is of course desperately and very feebly riding on the back of the &quot;wiki&quot; concept so as to make it look like &quot;progress&quot;, however nothing could be further from the truth (unless of course we are talking about progress in the world of SPAMMING technology and content theft). Simply put, the basis for a WIKI is the human input of original content, NOT automated self population using everyone elses plagiarised content.


I won&#039;t get into the technicalities here because what they are doing is indeed very complex and extremely sophisticated with additional changes being made all the time in order to hijack yet more search results using everyone elses content. 

However, I will mention the &quot;opt out&quot; process because despite their claims, it&#039;s not quite that painless:

Be warned, if you choose the aboutus.org &quot;no bots&quot; root, or ask them to remove content in any way shape or form, you will then still have an empty page listed with your domain and a link (they will not remove this), you will also have your domain and link then FURTHER added to an EXTRA page deliberately listing opted out domains, further more you may also then very well even find your domain name listed on yet another page with the word “sponsor” in front of it promoting aboutus.org advertising services. (So to recap you opted out and now your domain name is listed on 3 pages instead of 1). Further more, if one of the aboutus.org editors decides to add you to their chat pages you will then be listed FOUR times following an opt out. 

So, to recap, opt-out and you will still be listed / linked, perhaps even MORE SO than before you did! You will of course then see the mutlitple spammy aboutus.org google results related to these extra pages, which is of course their clear intention.

  
SPIN SPIN SPIN: Despite their very well devised and well placed spin all over the web, this CLEARLY aint no &quot;Google&quot; or &quot;Youtube&quot;, or indeed any kind of &quot;innovation&quot; what so ever despite their ridiculous rhetoric. This is just plain old fashioned SPAM SPAM SPAM founded in GREED GREED GREED.


Of course the ONLY positive effects of aboutus.org are felt by the sites shameless owners, whilst the wholly NEGATIVE effects are clearly felt by everyone else:


Aboutus.org is NEGATIVE to all WEB SURFERS (getting crappy deceptive spammy results pointing to aboutus.org rather than the sites they are actually looking for). 

Aboutus.org is NEGATIVE to WEBSITE AUTHORS (losing their ranking, having their results hijacked, having their original content, domain name, keywords STOLEN and abused for profit by criminals)

Aboutus.org is NEGATIVE to search engines like GOOGLE (poisoning and destroying the critical quality of all search results on a humongous scale)

Advertisers beware, if you advertise with aboutus.org then your brand will be judged accordingly.

Complain to Google now &quot;search for report spam to google&quot; and get aboutus.org BANNED so they can crawl off and die in a dark corner of the internet along with all the other nasty evil spammers.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys and gals, there are some great points being made here. It&#8217;s clear to see that there are MANY who would like to see aboutus.org banned from google, so here&#8217;s my two cents&#8230;</p>
<p>Despite all the truly laugable spin being pushed by the naive brainwashed cult members that are the employees of aboutus.org it is perfectly clear to see what the site IS and what the site was always intended to be:</p>
<p>Essentially aboutus.org is there to automatically generate deceptive incoming google results using everyone else’s stolen content, domain names and keywords so as to MAKE MONEY from advertising. Nothing any more profound, clever or nobel than that.</p>
<p>Aboutus.org is simply SPAMMING &amp; PLAGIARISM on a more sophisticated and grand scale than anything seen before.</p>
<p>The idea is of course desperately and very feebly riding on the back of the &#8220;wiki&#8221; concept so as to make it look like &#8220;progress&#8221;, however nothing could be further from the truth (unless of course we are talking about progress in the world of SPAMMING technology and content theft). Simply put, the basis for a WIKI is the human input of original content, NOT automated self population using everyone elses plagiarised content.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t get into the technicalities here because what they are doing is indeed very complex and extremely sophisticated with additional changes being made all the time in order to hijack yet more search results using everyone elses content. </p>
<p>However, I will mention the &#8220;opt out&#8221; process because despite their claims, it&#8217;s not quite that painless:</p>
<p>Be warned, if you choose the aboutus.org &#8220;no bots&#8221; root, or ask them to remove content in any way shape or form, you will then still have an empty page listed with your domain and a link (they will not remove this), you will also have your domain and link then FURTHER added to an EXTRA page deliberately listing opted out domains, further more you may also then very well even find your domain name listed on yet another page with the word “sponsor” in front of it promoting aboutus.org advertising services. (So to recap you opted out and now your domain name is listed on 3 pages instead of 1). Further more, if one of the aboutus.org editors decides to add you to their chat pages you will then be listed FOUR times following an opt out. </p>
<p>So, to recap, opt-out and you will still be listed / linked, perhaps even MORE SO than before you did! You will of course then see the mutlitple spammy aboutus.org google results related to these extra pages, which is of course their clear intention.</p>
<p>SPIN SPIN SPIN: Despite their very well devised and well placed spin all over the web, this CLEARLY aint no &#8220;Google&#8221; or &#8220;Youtube&#8221;, or indeed any kind of &#8220;innovation&#8221; what so ever despite their ridiculous rhetoric. This is just plain old fashioned SPAM SPAM SPAM founded in GREED GREED GREED.</p>
<p>Of course the ONLY positive effects of aboutus.org are felt by the sites shameless owners, whilst the wholly NEGATIVE effects are clearly felt by everyone else:</p>
<p>Aboutus.org is NEGATIVE to all WEB SURFERS (getting crappy deceptive spammy results pointing to aboutus.org rather than the sites they are actually looking for). </p>
<p>Aboutus.org is NEGATIVE to WEBSITE AUTHORS (losing their ranking, having their results hijacked, having their original content, domain name, keywords STOLEN and abused for profit by criminals)</p>
<p>Aboutus.org is NEGATIVE to search engines like GOOGLE (poisoning and destroying the critical quality of all search results on a humongous scale)</p>
<p>Advertisers beware, if you advertise with aboutus.org then your brand will be judged accordingly.</p>
<p>Complain to Google now &#8220;search for report spam to google&#8221; and get aboutus.org BANNED so they can crawl off and die in a dark corner of the internet along with all the other nasty evil spammers.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://spoken-for.org/archives/2006/09/24/1687/comment-page-1/#comment-415952</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, nice, so now aboutus.org has added me to a mailing list?  Granted, it&#039;s a forwarder I created only to get my sites removed from them, but still!  You don&#039;t automatically add people you&#039;ve emailed in the past to your newsletter!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, nice, so now aboutus.org has added me to a mailing list?  Granted, it&#8217;s a forwarder I created only to get my sites removed from them, but still!  You don&#8217;t automatically add people you&#8217;ve emailed in the past to your newsletter!!</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://spoken-for.org/archives/2006/09/24/1687/comment-page-1/#comment-190115</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Che - I don&#039;t even think aboutus.org would be useful to big businesses unless it was an &lt;i&gt;opt-in&lt;/i&gt; thing.  If you&#039;ve a business but don&#039;t know that you&#039;re listed somewhere so you can control/update the content there, what good is it?

imo, aboutus.org: just a bad idea all around!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Che &#8211; I don&#8217;t even think aboutus.org would be useful to big businesses unless it was an <i>opt-in</i> thing.  If you&#8217;ve a business but don&#8217;t know that you&#8217;re listed somewhere so you can control/update the content there, what good is it?</p>
<p>imo, aboutus.org: just a bad idea all around!</p>
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		<title>By: trabob</title>
		<link>http://spoken-for.org/archives/2006/09/24/1687/comment-page-1/#comment-181751</link>
		<dc:creator>trabob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 16:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Che
Just read another post of yours in another forum, seems like you are getting around as much as me. I posted a complaint with IC3 an internet reporting service to complain last month and still waiting to hear from them, if others would file complaints it might help as someone has to read them and take notice
Thanks
Trabob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Che<br />
Just read another post of yours in another forum, seems like you are getting around as much as me. I posted a complaint with IC3 an internet reporting service to complain last month and still waiting to hear from them, if others would file complaints it might help as someone has to read them and take notice<br />
Thanks<br />
Trabob</p>
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		<title>By: Che</title>
		<link>http://spoken-for.org/archives/2006/09/24/1687/comment-page-1/#comment-181293</link>
		<dc:creator>Che</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 15:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blogged about this issue to, but used a lot more swear-words than you nice folks. I only recently discovered my domains listed on this site, and I&#039;m furious. At first, it was just amusing, but then I found my personal info displayed for all to see. Even more infuriating, there&#039;s no way to truly opt out. Your listing still remains. 

When I first found my sites listed, I opted out three of my domains and the info on them was removed, but not the listings. I didn&#039;t opt out my fourth domain, because it wasn&#039;t a live site yet.  I didn&#039;t think it would be listed, because there are no links to it anywhere on the net, and it isn&#039;t listed on google. Its just sitting, doing nothing, waiting for me to get busy.

Later I discovered it was listed on aboutus. I wrote an opt-out letter, I deleted the info, and put up the appropriate robots.txt, to keep it from being scraped again. Went back today, and all the information was back. Some &#039;opt-out&#039; they&#039;ve got there.

I really resent the way this site forces webmasters to participate in their site. Since opting out doesn&#039;t truly opt us out, our domains can still be edited by flamers, spammers, or with just plain erroneous info, which forces us to keep checking our listings. 

I just hate everything about this site. I run very small personal sites, and I do it for pleasure. I&#039;m not a big business, nor do I desire to be. I can see where such a wiki MIGHT be useful to business websites. Might. But it isn&#039;t useful to me and I have no desire to be listed on aboutus. Such a service should be opt-in, not opt-out (and it isn&#039;t REALLY opt-out anyway). 

Anyway, this issue is new to me, and I just wanted to sound off. Hey, and I did it without swearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blogged about this issue to, but used a lot more swear-words than you nice folks. I only recently discovered my domains listed on this site, and I&#8217;m furious. At first, it was just amusing, but then I found my personal info displayed for all to see. Even more infuriating, there&#8217;s no way to truly opt out. Your listing still remains. </p>
<p>When I first found my sites listed, I opted out three of my domains and the info on them was removed, but not the listings. I didn&#8217;t opt out my fourth domain, because it wasn&#8217;t a live site yet.  I didn&#8217;t think it would be listed, because there are no links to it anywhere on the net, and it isn&#8217;t listed on google. Its just sitting, doing nothing, waiting for me to get busy.</p>
<p>Later I discovered it was listed on aboutus. I wrote an opt-out letter, I deleted the info, and put up the appropriate robots.txt, to keep it from being scraped again. Went back today, and all the information was back. Some &#8216;opt-out&#8217; they&#8217;ve got there.</p>
<p>I really resent the way this site forces webmasters to participate in their site. Since opting out doesn&#8217;t truly opt us out, our domains can still be edited by flamers, spammers, or with just plain erroneous info, which forces us to keep checking our listings. </p>
<p>I just hate everything about this site. I run very small personal sites, and I do it for pleasure. I&#8217;m not a big business, nor do I desire to be. I can see where such a wiki MIGHT be useful to business websites. Might. But it isn&#8217;t useful to me and I have no desire to be listed on aboutus. Such a service should be opt-in, not opt-out (and it isn&#8217;t REALLY opt-out anyway). </p>
<p>Anyway, this issue is new to me, and I just wanted to sound off. Hey, and I did it without swearing.</p>
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